Getrag 440/446 parts.

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Originally Posted by devilmanVISA

Ok. You focus on getting the factory stuff ever 6-12 months I will focus on building a trans that takes more than a stiff breeze to blow over.

agreed, I have no problem making shit loads of power, my bigest fear is how am I going to put that power to the ground??? I all ready have a "spare" trans but even now I am having part porblems with it we realy need to have a bullet proof trans built for us......power is useless without a transmission to handle it

[SkortchGT]

I forgot to say, not sure if this would be helpful or not:

In May I am probably taking a 1 day trip out to Jasper Engines and Transmissions. My girlfriend's father is the vehicle maintenance supervisor at the postal service, and they get all there engines/transmissions from Jasper. He usually goes out there every few years, and this year he offered to take me with him. It's not "set in stone" as of yet, although there is a very good chance I will be going. I don't really think Jasper deals with our transmissions, however I am more then willing to ask some questions and see if they would be interested in making any replacement parts/remanufactured parts for our trannies. Nothing will probably come of it, but I figure it can't hurt to ask if I do go out there. Let me know what everyone thinks.

Also, don't forget I have all the contact info for the senior management for Mitsubishi Motors in USA, as well as Getrag USA. I can easily get the senior management contact info for Getrag in Germany, and Mitsubishi in Japan. Any company in the world for that matter. This might be helpful if we continue to have a hard time finding replacement parts. I know that Jeff L got a complete syncro kit for about $600.00 from Getrag, but there were only 10 or so of these sets in existence? If Getrag had made these at one point, we should see if we can try to get them to start production again, and sell them to individual customers or maybe outsource another company like CRS to sell the sets to individual customers. We also need the single parts available also.

[Bret Brinkmann]

The inner blocker ring is probably made out the same material as the gear so they don't wear on each other. When to parts rub against each other it is important that they have the same hardness or one will wear out faster, the tollerances will because excessive and then the harder part will get chewed up.

Even if some one where to do this it would only be a temperary solution to the real problem. We need other internal componants as well as parts for the TCs. I have all ready spoke with Getrag and they won't sell any one any thing unless they get Mitsu permission. I am working on that last part now, but I am out of town until the 7th so progress has come to a stop on that venue until then.

I have gotten in touch with a possible supplier for parts. However, he was supposed to call me back but never did. He seems to have made him self disappear now because he is never there when I call him back.

As for the synchro failing every 6-12 months, if that is happening then may be your clutch is dragging or maybe you just aren't that good at shifting fast yet?Not to insult any one I have a lack of skill myself. I have also learned that my most resent tranny mishap was due to a faulty master cylinder and a weak slave cylinder. Of course my lack of driver skill didn't help matters either. Don't even get me started on gear oils...

[Theo_VR4]

I didn't realize the first time I put in my RPS 3 that my pedal needed adjusted because it wasn't disengaging the clutch completely. I figured this out when my shift quality quickly deteriorated. It was better after I realized and adjusted the clutch pedal but some damage was already done...

[Mentor Mitsu]

Originally Posted by RobBeck

This is exactly why we shouldnt care to look into making bullit proof synchros. The idea is just ridiculous, lets just stay focused on getting factory stuff fellas.
The automobile is mechanical, with mechanics comes maintenance... its just a fact of life. The only problem we have is getting sourcing on our parts, but our parts do work fine if we can get them.

Rob

Rob,

The very nature of 3SI should be the reason as to why you should look for better, tougher parts.
Stock were designed to handle only so much...Good or Bad.

You need someone that can get factory parts to keep things going for the short term. Until a Hi-Po option becomes available.
I have sent over an ever increasing amount of part numbers and seem to be able to get them. Pricing is usually higher than CRS though sometimes it is less (as in the reverse synchro). Brett was quite right on pricing issues as they sometimes are alot higher.

Reverse synchro & 1&2nd fork assembly are lower but the 1st & 2nd synchro are much higher.
I have to go into a meeting on 4/29 and will try and find away to help on the price issue (but as I'm already @ cost plus 20% GP I don't have much room to work)
Delivery reads as posted: 3-4 weeks (worst case on 1 to 2 Qty.) to my facing PDC. No next day air possible as orders are already air freighted into the US from Japan. It is possible to see parts in 1 to 2 weeks but no way to forecast the probabilities of this happening.

Rob...Do you still need an Input Shaft Bearing?
See Jeff's previous post as I'm willing to order it for you.

Thanks,
Howard

[RobBeck]

No I dont... just needed a synchro but I got lucky and CRS had it (4th gear). I am however thinking that at some point something else will break.... and when that happens I hope the sourcing is there Who knows, maybe I will need a shift fork too BTW, are our shift forks cast aluminum or iron?

Rob

Originally Posted by Mentor Mitsu

Rob...Do you still need an Input Shaft Bearing?
See Jeff's previous post as I'm willing to order it for you.

Thanks,
Howard

[SkortchGT]

Originally Posted by Bret Brinkmann

The inner blocker ring is probably made out the same material as the gear so they don't wear on each other. When to parts rub against each other it is important that they have the same hardness or one will wear out faster, the tollerances will because excessive and then the harder part will get chewed up.

Even if some one where to do this it would only be a temperary solution to the real problem. We need other internal componants as well as parts for the TCs. I have all ready spoke with Getrag and they won't sell any one any thing unless they get Mitsu permission. I am working on that last part now, but I am out of town until the 7th so progress has come to a stop on that venue until then.

I have gotten in touch with a possible supplier for parts. However, he was supposed to call me back but never did. He seems to have made him self disappear now because he is never there when I call him back.

As for the synchro failing every 6-12 months, if that is happening then may be your clutch is dragging or maybe you just aren't that good at shifting fast yet?Not to insult any one I have a lack of skill myself. I have also learned that my most resent tranny mishap was due to a faulty master cylinder and a weak slave cylinder. Of course my lack of driver skill didn't help matters either. Don't even get me started on gear oils...

I want to get you started on gear oils..I want to hear what you have to say.

[devilmanVISA]

Shift forks are cast aluminum.

[SkortchGT]

Originally Posted by devilmanVISA

Shift forks are cast aluminum.

Thats ghey, I didn't know that.

[RobBeck]

Anyone have any pics of em.... maybe I can make some out of billet

Rob

Originally Posted by devilmanVISA

Shift forks are cast aluminum.