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davidX · 04-22-2004, 03:04 PM

so does kormex still have synchros in stock?

Bret Brinkmann · 04-22-2004, 05:42 PM

Gatecrasher - No problem. You guys seemed as though you both were headed that way any way.

Robert Duncan - It's not the tranny as a whole that gives us problems, it is certain individual parts. Even then there are other parts that will wear out regaurdless or cryo teatment or what ever. To date no one has ever broken a gear. The only shaft we have broken is the 18 spline output shaft. That is sovled by buying a 300m 18 spline shaft. The 25 spline shafts may strip if there is a build up or rust or corrosion. You can prevent this by applying some greese to the splines. If you want to know anything else about common failures or drive train weaknesses feel free to send me an e-mail.

davidX - Komrex sell a NON-OEM middle (AKA friction ring) synchro ring for 1/2. The issue is that CRS will not offer any more of the inner blocker rings for 1/2. These rings have been known to break. As is the case for my transaxle and one other customer of mine.

Every one should note: At some point we WILL need more than just synchros. We will need internal componants to the TCs and other random gears, shafts, houseings what ever. CRS informed me that they will stop makeing several other parts for these transaxles not just the inner blocker ring for 1/2. We have one other member who needs a pinion shaft for his six speed. Neither CRS or Kormex have one and it doesn't look like one will show up soon. I need a 1/2 shift fork for my six speed. Any one got a spare? I'd be surprised if you did. My point is this. We really need a PARTS supplier not a SYNCHRO supplier. We shouldn't forget that...

geoffw · 04-22-2004, 06:00 PM

Well whatever happened to buying parts from getrag, my offer still stands to buy in bulk from them, if they will sell to me..

-Geoff

xwire · 04-22-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bret Brinkmann

davidX - Komrex sell a NON-OEM middle (AKA friction ring) synchro ring for 1/2. The issue is that CRS will not offer any more of the inner blocker rings for 1/2. These rings have been known to break. As is the case for my transaxle and one other customer of mine.

wonder who's that is?!?!?

so are we haivng any more luck with the blocker rings, the porshe info is not panning out at any pace faster then a turtles crawl

would love to see us have a new parts supplier as my spare tranny is not keeping up with the one that is in the car anymore

Gatecrasher · 04-22-2004, 09:26 PM

Ok friends, I've finally uploaded the 6-speed cross reference.

I cannot promise that it is perfect! If you find an error, please tell me.

I'll get a proper web page up soon, but I didn't want to leave everyone hanging until then.

Diagram:

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...%20Diagram.jpg

946K. BIG SOB

I have no idea how to print this on any normal printer

I'll play with the orientations and see if I can't make it look better.

I also included the charts at ths bottom as an Excel spreadsheet. This way you can add prices or notes for yourself, and use Excel's search to find a PN instead of trying to eyeball it on the graphical list.

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...0reference.xls

I'll start work on the 5 speed soon.

SkortchGT · 04-23-2004, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

Ok friends, I've finally uploaded the 6-speed cross reference.

I cannot promise that it is perfect! If you find an error, please tell me.

I'll get a proper web page up soon, but I didn't want to leave everyone hanging until then.

Diagram:

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...%20Diagram.jpg

946K. BIG SOB

I have no idea how to print this on any normal printer

I'll play with the orientations and see if I can't make it look better.

I also included the charts at ths bottom as an Excel spreadsheet. This way you can add prices or notes for yourself, and use Excel's search to find a PN instead of trying to eyeball it on the graphical list.

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...0reference.xls

I'll start work on the 5 speed soon.

Man that is great!! Awsome work, can't wait until you finish the 5 speed one. Again thanks! This is a great reference.

RobBeck · 04-23-2004, 04:07 PM

Gatecrasher you kick ass bro.

Rob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatecrasher

Ok friends, I've finally uploaded the 6-speed cross reference.

I cannot promise that it is perfect! If you find an error, please tell me.

I'll get a proper web page up soon, but I didn't want to leave everyone hanging until then.

Diagram:

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...%20Diagram.jpg

946K. BIG SOB

I have no idea how to print this on any normal printer

I'll play with the orientations and see if I can't make it look better.

I also included the charts at ths bottom as an Excel spreadsheet. This way you can add prices or notes for yourself, and use Excel's search to find a PN instead of trying to eyeball it on the graphical list.

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...0reference.xls

I'll start work on the 5 speed soon.

Gatecrasher · 04-23-2004, 08:19 PM

I'll go one better. Here's a downsized version of the chart edited and cleaned up by Mike Meskill (krusaderx) It's black and white and 600k. The actual image size is still the same.

http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...aster%20BW.gif

rdzombie · 04-27-2004, 07:51 AM

why is it that these syncros go out so often in the first place?, is it a materials problem or engineering? my first and second fell like they will be going out soon. did the 6 speed have the same problems?

SkortchGT · 04-27-2004, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdzombie

why is it that these syncros go out so often in the first place?, is it a materials problem or engineering? my first and second fell like they will be going out soon. did the 6 speed have the same problems?

They are made of bronze metal, which I believe is a pretty soft metal, which is why they wear out so quickly.

04-22-2004, 03:04 PM	#161 (permalink)
davidX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: plano, tx Drives: 93 Supra 6spd Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. so does kormex still have synchros in stock?

04-22-2004, 05:42 PM	#162 (permalink)
Bret Brinkmann Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte NC Drives: Rear wheels only... Trader Rating: (4)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. Gatecrasher - No problem. You guys seemed as though you both were headed that way any way. Robert Duncan - It's not the tranny as a whole that gives us problems, it is certain individual parts. Even then there are other parts that will wear out regaurdless or cryo teatment or what ever. To date no one has ever broken a gear. The only shaft we have broken is the 18 spline output shaft. That is sovled by buying a 300m 18 spline shaft. The 25 spline shafts may strip if there is a build up or rust or corrosion. You can prevent this by applying some greese to the splines. If you want to know anything else about common failures or drive train weaknesses feel free to send me an e-mail. davidX - Komrex sell a NON-OEM middle (AKA friction ring) synchro ring for 1/2. The issue is that CRS will not offer any more of the inner blocker rings for 1/2. These rings have been known to break. As is the case for my transaxle and one other customer of mine. Every one should note: At some point we WILL need more than just synchros. We will need internal componants to the TCs and other random gears, shafts, houseings what ever. CRS informed me that they will stop makeing several other parts for these transaxles not just the inner blocker ring for 1/2. We have one other member who needs a pinion shaft for his six speed. Neither CRS or Kormex have one and it doesn't look like one will show up soon. I need a 1/2 shift fork for my six speed. Any one got a spare? I'd be surprised if you did. My point is this. We really need a PARTS supplier not a SYNCHRO supplier. We shouldn't forget that... __________________ When asked what the best thing to come out of Italy is, most Italians will tell you Ferrari.... But if you ask me it was Super Mario Brothers. 250 RWHP If you want the exploded views of both 5 and 6 speeds or pics e-mail me at SavagTiger@AOL.com. 94 VR-4 Panama Green Tan Interior RPS II, gutted cats, flipped BPV, 3SX control arms, 3SX shift bushings, Red Line, Auto-Meter. Rebuilt TC, transaxle, steering rack, heads, and turbos. 360cc's blue printened with in 1%. New short block. RWD convertion and welded rear end.

04-22-2004, 06:00 PM	#163 (permalink)
geoffw Boom Boom Sucky Sucky Join Date: May 2003 Location: SF Bay Area Drives: '92 Talon Tsi AWD Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. Well whatever happened to buying parts from getrag, my offer still stands to buy in bulk from them, if they will sell to me.. -Geoff __________________ '92 Blue Eagle Talon Tsi AWD ProStreet Race Engine Hacked MAS SAFC2 Big 16G Full 2.5" Exhaust w/High Flow Cat UICP w/SSQV Friends Car: '92 Panama Green 3000GT VR4 (??? miles) Matrix Intake Blitz DSBC Spec-R (Indigo) ESP "Race" Downpipe 3.0" Test Pipe Gutted Pre-Cats Custom Cat-Back 3560 lbs (No Driver, Empty Tank)

04-22-2004, 09:26 PM	#165 (permalink)
Gatecrasher The Chaosbringer Join Date: Aug 1999 Drives: 81 Fiat Panda Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. Ok friends, I've finally uploaded the 6-speed cross reference. I cannot promise that it is perfect! If you find an error, please tell me. I'll get a proper web page up soon, but I didn't want to leave everyone hanging until then. Diagram: http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...%20Diagram.jpg 946K. BIG SOB I have no idea how to print this on any normal printer I'll play with the orientations and see if I can't make it look better. I also included the charts at ths bottom as an Excel spreadsheet. This way you can add prices or notes for yourself, and use Excel's search to find a PN instead of trying to eyeball it on the graphical list. http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...0reference.xls I'll start work on the 5 speed soon. __________________ North Bend Technologies - northbendtech.com

04-23-2004, 08:19 PM	#168 (permalink)
Gatecrasher The Chaosbringer Join Date: Aug 1999 Drives: 81 Fiat Panda Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. I'll go one better. Here's a downsized version of the chart edited and cleaned up by Mike Meskill (krusaderx) It's black and white and 600k. The actual image size is still the same. http://xtreme3s.net/images/getrash/6...aster%20BW.gif

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04-27-2004, 07:51 AM	#169 (permalink)
rdzombie Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: va Drives: 91 VR4, Trader Rating: (5)	Re: Getrag 440/446 parts. why is it that these syncros go out so often in the first place?, is it a materials problem or engineering? my first and second fell like they will be going out soon. did the 6 speed have the same problems?