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Old 03-19-2004, 01:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

I tore apart a spare oil pump yesterday and it is extremely easy to shim the relief valve spring for higher oil pressure, IF you have the oil pan off the car.

The theory is that the relief valve keeps the oil pressure from getting too high at higher RPMS. At lower RPMS the releive valve is supposed to be closed completely. Many people believe the relief valve opens a little at lower RPMS bleeding off a little oil pressure. Shimming the spring increases the oil pressure at higher RPMS but it might also keep oil pressure a little higher at low RPMS.

There are other threads discussing if this actually helps at all, I will link to them later when I find them all.


For Now I will just describe HOW to do it.

With the oil pan off the engine, better if pump is off the car) look at the bottom of the oil pump. There is a big (24mm?) bolt head next to the oil pickup tube.




Remove this big bolt being carefull to catch the spring that will pop out.



The bolt has a recessed pocket in it that the spring sets into. Drop a washer into this pocket then put the spring on top of the washer and re-install the bolt. Make sure you use thread sealant on the bolt.

Thats it! The thickness of the washer determines how much the oil pressure is raised. When I have some spare time I will measure the spring tension to get an idea of how much the oil pressure will change based on spacer thickness.

I would love to hear from anyone who has actually done this. My engine won't be running for awhile so I have no idea how much effect this will have.

DISCLAIMER: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Too high of oil pressure can be just as bad as too low of pressure.
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

Since I'm too lazy to search for it, could you recap what the factory specs are for idle, cruise, and WOT oil pressures? Thanks
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Old 03-21-2004, 01:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

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Since I'm too lazy to search for it, could you recap what the factory specs are for idle, cruise, and WOT oil pressures? Thanks
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

That's a nice idea. I doubt I'd want my oil pressure much higher than it already is going down the highway though.
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

when i shimmed mine i added 2 washers that totalled about 1/8 inch together. can't say how it worked out though, since my gauge's wire got severed and then the engine locked up in 3 miles

(the engine failure was not realted, by the way, so don't worry; that's kinda a long story )
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

Thats great thinking I might have to try that. Doesnt' TODA(??) sell an upgraded oil pump? If so how does there pump compared to a stocker. Sorry a lil off topic but good thinking non the less~
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

there is whole thread about 45 pages long about the toga () pump in the AWD mod forum, do a search and it should come up. i have to toga pump, but cannot report on it's performance yet.
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

Ok man I will look that up and thanks for the correction I knew I was close!
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Old 03-23-2004, 01:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: How to shim your oil pump relieve valve for higher oil pressure

Yeah, it's very easy to shim relief valve spring... I HIGHLY recommend it. I would NOT, however, recommend shimming the spring of an old, tired oil pump. Take the time to replace it if you have ANY doubts.

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Heres an interesting tidbit i wish i would have researched 2 months ago.

91 oem spring = md015988
91 replacement spring = md174687
92+ all springs = md174687

Reason for today's research...........
http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=209407
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