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Old 09-17-2008, 01:38 PM   #581 (permalink)
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is stage 2.5 when i rewire my timing back to factory while maintaining add/sub injectors? because I am thinking of running stock timing but controlling fuel.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:41 PM   #582 (permalink)
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is stage 2.5 when i rewire my timing back to factory while maintaining add/sub injectors? because I am thinking of running stock timing but controlling fuel.
I would keep the timing hooked up as well incase you do happen to require any timing adjustments. You can just have the timing map disabled or zero'd out, and the timing will be stock.
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:19 PM   #583 (permalink)
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Stage 2.5 can only add fuel through the injector directly, not subtract. Stage 3 lets you do everything.

The only way to truly get stock timing numbers is to run Stage 3 and tune it using Gray Haze's method (a bit too complex for someone new to tuning).
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:06 PM   #584 (permalink)
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Iv been runing my car stage 3 at 15psi i was hitting 100% idc.... if i wire down to stage 2.5 will this not be a problem and can i still subtract fuel via Air fuel map?
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:39 PM   #585 (permalink)
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Stage 2.5 can only add fuel through the injector directly, not subtract. Stage 3 lets you do everything.

The only way to truly get stock timing numbers is to run Stage 3 and tune it using Gray Haze's method (a bit too complex for someone new to tuning).
I am not running 1.14v it acts up on me on 1.14 i am on 2.16 now
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:26 AM   #586 (permalink)
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is stage 2.5 when i rewire my timing back to factory while maintaining add/sub injectors? because I am thinking of running stock timing but controlling fuel.
Strongly advise against that. Timing control is the point to the Emange, both blue and Ultimate. Running with out it is like running an overpriced SAFC.

You wont be making as much power as what the device is capable of making you make.

Plus personally. I never liked the idea of just changing fuel only, to me thats just a wrong way to tune.
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Iv been runing my car stage 3 at 15psi i was hitting 100% idc.... if i wire down to stage 2.5 will this not be a problem and can i still subtract fuel via Air fuel map?
It's not necessary to rewire to eliminate 100% idc, it's all in the way you tune.
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It's not necessary to rewire to eliminate 100% idc, it's all in the way you tune.
well i don't want the rich idle and the hassle of clamping and retuning with different maps... so far i really only know how to use the a/f map and the ignition map.
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Just use the airflow map and don't use the injector sizing feature if you don't want to deal with the 100% idc. That's a lot easier than rewiring.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:44 PM   #590 (permalink)
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yeah thats what i did i never used the injector size.... i just subtracted fuel via the a/f map and i was reaching over 100% idc....
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