-= Ultimate Emanage Tuning Thread =-

[sleeper3000]

one more question. cant i just edit some of the wires on the boomslang to put me at stage 2.5 since i have a first gen car and blackstealths car is a first gen to and runs just fine at stage 2.5 compared to stage 3. or to down stage it do i just unplug one of the harnesses plug it right into the stock ecu.
most likely this can be done. because i dont feel like buying all the harnesses again.

[Racer_X]

are you guys using the A/F adjustment map with yoru widebands? That should make it pretty much perfect (worked for me).

[BlackStealth]

Any year model car can have stage 2.5. To do this, remove greddy CEL adaptor completely, next cut the Emanage input injector wires (6 total) which now gives you a total of 12 wires. Six of these are no longer used (the ones heading off to the Emanage unit) and should be neatly taped up. The other remaining six need to tie back to Emanage output injector wire, be sure to match them up correctly ie. injector 1 goes with injector 1, ... and that's it for wiring. Now you need to move 7 emanage internal jumpers (JP1-6, JP18), this tells emanage you will only add injector duty cycle and no longer add/subtract. In the software side open the parameter I/J window and change +/- to + only. You're all done.

I took some pictures when I did this, just say the word and I'll put them up here if you think you need more help.

Yeah the AF Target map works perfect for WOT runs, but it still couldn't overcome my stage 3 rich WOT bug. Maybe newer EMU units work correctly??? I'm still puzzled as to why this happens to me, keep in mind my unit is like 2+ years old.

[Gray Haze]

Originally Posted by BlackStealth

Any year model car can have stage 2.5. To do this, remove greddy CEL adaptor completely, next cut the Emanage input injector wires (6 total) which now gives you a total of 12 wires. Six of these are no longer used (the ones heading off to the Emanage unit) and should be neatly taped up. The other remaining six need to tie back to Emanage output injector wire, be sure to match them up correctly ie. injector 1 goes with injector 1, ... and that's it for wiring. Now you need to move 7 emanage internal jumpers (JP1-6, JP18), this tells emanage you will only add injector duty cycle and no longer add/subtract. In the software side open the parameter I/J window and change +/- to + only. You're all done.

I took some pictures when I did this, just say the word and I'll put them up here if you think you need more help.

Yeah the AF Target map works perfect for WOT runs, but it still couldn't overcome my stage 3 rich WOT bug. Maybe newer EMU units work correctly??? I'm still puzzled as to why this happens to me, keep in mind my unit is like 2+ years old.

Mine is a year old and can lean it self so far out that the car stalls LOL :P

[SirLaughaloTT]

Originally Posted by Gray Haze

if your getting constant 7 8 9 cts then the gnd to the knock sensor is probally loose.

i checked i wiggled the wire to see if it would cause some knock.. also this only happens when i hook up the emange.. if i go back to the ecu this problem is non existent...

[sleeper3000]

Originally Posted by BlackStealth

Any year model car can have stage 2.5. To do this, remove greddy CEL adaptor completely, next cut the Emanage input injector wires (6 total) which now gives you a total of 12 wires. Six of these are no longer used (the ones heading off to the Emanage unit) and should be neatly taped up. The other remaining six need to tie back to Emanage output injector wire, be sure to match them up correctly ie. injector 1 goes with injector 1, ... and that's it for wiring. Now you need to move 7 emanage internal jumpers (JP1-6, JP18), this tells emanage you will only add injector duty cycle and no longer add/subtract. In the software side open the parameter I/J window and change +/- to + only. You're all done.

I took some pictures when I did this, just say the word and I'll put them up here if you think you need more help.

Yeah the AF Target map works perfect for WOT runs, but it still couldn't overcome my stage 3 rich WOT bug. Maybe newer EMU units work correctly??? I'm still puzzled as to why this happens to me, keep in mind my unit is like 2+ years old.

yeah i figured that was how it was suppose to be wired. the only part i didnt know what the jumpers inside the unit. over looked that step. saw that they were talkin about jumpers in the guide but now i remember we dont have to change anything because of the stage 3. thanks for that info blackstealth. but yeah it sucks that just hooking up stage 3 doesnt work factory. no idea why it does that when all the settings are stock. but w.e. hopefully stage 2.5 will kick some ass this time and get me some data logs. i just wanna record somthing damnit.

lol but yeah thanks again for everyones help and yours blackstealth. you know what your talking about. might be messaging you soon. when i get turbos and injectors.

[sleeper3000]

lol blackstealth could you show me the pic of the wire job. i just wanna make sure i got the right wires. because your instructions say to use the injection ch out wires. where as in the instruction book it says to use the in ch's

it says to use connection c channel wires and those say channel in. (wires with the red strip)
if this is correct then its fine. the out wires for the connection are on connection harness b right? and those are out channels. right?

and all i do is disconnect the injector wires from connector b and just use connection c and have to wire the wires across the boomslang harness macthing the injector channels and thats it for the wiring.

if i was looking at the instructions right and that the wires they wanted to be connected to just add fuel was the in channels not the out. unless when you do just add those wires can recieve the signal and send a signal threw the same wire. then its fine i guess. dunno. but if you could post the pic. it would help me to see if mine is set up the same.

thanks in advance
mark

[BlackStealth]

Stage 2.5 wired for the ultimate is wired exactly the same as the blue emanage, and since Connector C never existed for blue emanage that is the one we need to eliminate. So Pin 34, 35, 36, 42, 43, 44 on connector C will no longer be required. Pin 17, 18, 19, 20, 28, 29 on connector B will remain hooked up, even though Greddy has labeled them as Injector Input Signal they do in fact can add/extend the injector duty cycle so the name is definitely confusing. Ignore my previous post as I didn't have the greddy manual in front of me.

I just downloaded the pics off of my camera and the focus isn't very good, it looks rather confusing with so many wires nearby (car alarm wires, etc). I think you'll be okay now.

[SirLaughaloTT]

ok so i got the constant knock count to go away by pulling out the harness and hooking it back up.... so no i decided to install my 680 injectors did so did the before and after 360 to 680.. put -35 in every cell in my airflow map. started the car it started running rich and worked its way up to 15.0.. after the car warmed up i notice it was idleing at 13.5 so i put -40 in the cell box to try and lean it out ... didn't really help much so i opened an injector map and in the first cell i put-5 i tired to start the car and it wont start.. so i went back to 0 on the injector map car still wont start im kinda stuck if someone could help me it would be really helpful thanks

Adam

[SirLaughaloTT]

i don't know how to reduce the fuel at idle?