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Old 06-14-2006, 03:31 PM   #461 (permalink)
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Avoid picking a wideband controller that requires splitting the signal into two as that could spell trouble. So what you want is a wideband controller that is designed to show you a display and simultaneously have an available wideband signal. The PLX M300 gets that job done perfectly. I don't own the other products, so you'll have to research.
Ok so the PLX M300 does what I want... I have that option then.

Which WB do you have? the PLX M300?

Does anyone here have the Innovate or AEM? and could confirm if it does the display (on a gauge) and connection to the emanage simultaneously.
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:40 PM   #462 (permalink)
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No CEL at any time, unless I was driving with the maf unplugged. If the EMU was providing a signal, why would it affect the way the car runs? It should run normal, just with an error message in the EMU.
In my experience, the existence of a fully wired EMU prevented the ECU from being able to sense whether the MAS was there or not, and that disables the ECU from being able to throw a code for MAS problems.

The EMU has some logic that establishes a reasonable range of airflow sensor readings given the engine rpm, at least I strongly suspect that. So if the engine is running at 1000 rpm, but the airflow sensor readings are substantially less, the EMU reports the airflow meter error. But it keeps providing a signal to the stock ECU, so the stock ECU doesn't throw the code.

So in my case, with an IC pipe blown off, the EMU detected there was not 'enough' air being reported on the sensor considering how fast the engine was running. It gave me the message you talked about, and the car ran like shit. As soon as I fixed the big boost leak, the problems and the message went away.

Not sure what's happening with your car. If it was a harness problem, wouldn't the ECU throw a code for the airflow meter?
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:45 PM   #463 (permalink)
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No CEL at any time, unless I was driving with the maf unplugged. If the EMU was providing a signal, why would it affect the way the car runs? It should run normal, just with an error message in the EMU.
In my experience, the existence of a fully wired EMU prevented the ECU from being able to sense whether the MAS was there or not, and that disables the ECU from being able to throw a code for MAS problems.

The EMU has some logic that establishes a reasonable range of airflow sensor readings given the engine rpm, at least I strongly suspect that. So if the engine is running at 1000 rpm, but the airflow sensor readings are substantially less, the EMU reports the airflow meter error. But it keeps providing a signal to the stock ECU, so the stock ECU doesn't throw the code.

So in my case, with an IC pipe blown off, the EMU detected there was not 'enough' air being reported on the sensor considering how fast the engine was running. It gave me the message you talked about, and the car ran like shit. As soon as I fixed the big boost leak, the problems and the message went away.

Not sure what's happening with your car. If it was a harness problem, wouldn't the ECU throw a code for the airflow meter?
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:48 AM   #464 (permalink)
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In my experience, the existence of a fully wired EMU prevented the ECU from being able to sense whether the MAS was there or not, and that disables the ECU from being able to throw a code for MAS problems.
I can unplug my MAF and I'll get a CEL, even with the EMU running the car.

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The EMU has some logic that establishes a reasonable range of airflow sensor readings given the engine rpm, at least I strongly suspect that. So if the engine is running at 1000 rpm, but the airflow sensor readings are substantially less, the EMU reports the airflow meter error. But it keeps providing a signal to the stock ECU, so the stock ECU doesn't throw the code.
Agreed, I don't get a CEL so long as the MAF is plugged in.

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So in my case, with an IC pipe blown off, the EMU detected there was not 'enough' air being reported on the sensor considering how fast the engine was running. It gave me the message you talked about, and the car ran like shit. As soon as I fixed the big boost leak, the problems and the message went away.
I checked today, no boost leak. However, I am running less boost since I've hooked my exhaust back up, and the problems seems to have basically started at that time. But I'm not ready to go back to open downpipe yet.

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Not sure what's happening with your car. If it was a harness problem, wouldn't the ECU throw a code for the airflow meter?
I would think so, but it doesn't show the CEL. That doesn't mean there isn't a stored code, I'll borrow a code reader and find out.

I traded the MAF and ECU with another car. My car ran perfect the last 2 days, so I was afraid the ecu was bad, but today it started acting up again, for no reason. I fail to see how going speed density won't fix this: It will eliminate the need for the wiring in question (MAF to EMU), also eliminate the MAF, and the output to the ecu will be according to the map that's built.
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hey guys, just wanted to post a HUGE thanks to BlackStealth and everyone else who has helped out with the awesome info in this thread. i dunno what i would do without 3si and its you guys that make this site what it is. THANK YOU.

ive also got a quick question ... didnt see this addressed yet, but if it has been ... sorry!
i want to control my alky injection with my emu ... can this be done with the auxiliary output setting? from what i understand, i could set this to output a 12v signal whenever my pressure sensor sees xx psi, right? this powers wire "37.Analog (Voltage) Output - Green / Gray" ... right?

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BlackStealth:

You mentioned back in January that in order to log true timing on the EM you need one more wire.

Which wire would I need?
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Old 06-18-2006, 11:18 AM   #467 (permalink)
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i want to control my alky injection with my emu ... can this be done with the auxiliary output setting?
I plan to use the subinjector wire to control mine. If you have a relay, enter 100% duty cycle for spray. If you have aquamist high speed valve, you can gradually allow more spray by entering different duty cycles for each psi load cell.

To log real timing, I believe it's the cam wiring. Search for my boomslang wire harness diagrams, I noted it there.
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Old 06-18-2006, 03:13 PM   #468 (permalink)
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I think i got a bad ultimate. I need someone to confirm that the communication led status when the car is on and not connected to a laptop. Does the yellow light always stay on or just come on when a laptop is connected?
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I plan to use the subinjector wire to control mine. If you have a relay, enter 100% duty cycle for spray. If you have aquamist high speed valve, you can gradually allow more spray by entering different duty cycles for each psi load cell.

To log real timing, I believe it's the cam wiring. Search for my boomslang wire harness diagrams, I noted it there.
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Hey I'm about to finally purchase this unit and wanted to know all the parts I need. I have a guy selling me the following for $600 shipped new, sounds like a good deal? The best I've seen on the emanage ult unit is $520 (shipped) + $110 (plus shipping) for the harness so $630.

On ebay its around $700+ for that same kit (unit + harness)

There are the only parts I need then: ?

E-MANAGE ULTIMATE (advance piggy-back ECMU w/ CD Software) Part # 15500501

ULTIMATE HARNESS KIT (complete wiring harness 18.14, & 12pin) & USB Part # 15901500

Whats the boomslan wire harness? Is it something additional or should I get that instead of the one sold by greddy?
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