-= Ultimate Emanage Thread =-

[madr34]

hi guys,

i have recently tried fitting the emanage ultimate to my 93 mitsubishi gto. I can't seem to get it to fire up. The engine cranks over, but no spark. my laptop communicates with the emanage unit. i double checked wiring and every part of the install and updated firmware and software. it just wont fire up. Any ideas anyone??

[33 PSI]

Hi just a question for you guys , with the emanage ultimate install, do you cut the rpm signal from the ecu or do you join the rpm and tps wire from the emanage to the ecu or do you completely remove the signal from the ecu?

[Rebel]

is anyone running mafless right now?

[Joez VR4]

Originally Posted by Rebel

is anyone running mafless right now?

I was running speed density but still had the meter in place to log the HZ reading to fine tune my map. The fuel cut feature also works awesome. I had forgotten I had it on and while taking a nephew for a ride I missed third and winged the motor to 8970. I was going to freshen the motor anyway. I look forward to playing with it again come spring.

[BlackStealth]

Originally Posted by 33 PSI

Hi just a question for you guys , with the emanage ultimate install, do you cut the rpm signal from the ecu or do you join the rpm and tps wire from the emanage to the ecu or do you completely remove the signal from the ecu?

I don't understand your question, and why you would even cut the rpm wire. Just follow the wiring diagrams I provided and you'll be okay.

[33 PSI]

Great thanks your'e a gem I really appreciate your help, i have the car started and it is running a little rough and reeally rich, is this normal? for a piggy back? can you help with some maps eg. ignition and fuel for stock turbos and injectors, i only have upgraded the intercoolers, exhaust, and intake.

[BlackStealth]

Originally Posted by 33 PSI

i have the car started and it is running a little rough and reeally rich, is this normal? for a piggy back? can you help with some maps eg. ignition and fuel for stock turbos and injectors, i only have upgraded the intercoolers, exhaust, and intake.

I'm assuming you're still using the stock MAF, in that case your fuel map and stock map should have all zeros in there. Make sure your car parameter is setup for 6G72 engine so all the emanage configurations are set correctly for this application. Your emanage should be completely transparent at this point. If it isn't then you've made a mistake somewhere along the way, as you shouldn't be experiencing a rich condition.

[Roger G.]

Thanks a lot for all the information provided here

Global injector sizing
Regarding the global inbjector sizing, any idea why this doesn't work ? Bug or is it only meant to work in Stage 3 where the injectors are controlled directly? If I enter the values for the sizing the maps do not change at all but does this setting automatically change the timing of the injectors then? I like that feature as it gives a startpoint where the car at least would run with larger injectors. What are the pros and cons in using these settings or directly via the maps?

Fuel cut / Limp mode
Our ECU's do not like high frequencies of highly increased airflow and initiate fuel cut for fall in limp mode. In Stage 3 fuel cut is probably no issue but below it is. So what should one do e.g. in Stage1 to keep the timing stock but using 720cc injectors? IMHO, this is not possible as then the Karman signal needs to be tweaked. Therefore Stage3 seems to be necessary as well as an output map for the airflow signal that will got limited in the upper areas. What MAP does this ?

Plug&Play Harnesses for 3S cars and eManage Ultimate
For those who don't like to cut or to tap into sooo many wires here's a source of completely done harnesses. You don't even need the Greddy one :



Here's the link to that company : Boomslang

I haven't received any of them so far but expecting mine in a week or two.

Thanks
Roger

[Roger G.]

Does anyone have this adapter already ? I guess it's only 6 resistors or pull-up's that simulate the inejctors to the ECU.

- Roger

Originally Posted by BlackStealth

Straight from http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/eman_ultimate.html, and translated by babelfish.

GReddy e-manage Ultimate injector adapter 3 (for 6 cylinders)

* It is the option part of e-manage Ultimate.
* It becomes 6 cylinder corresponding editions of e-manage Ultimate injector adapter 3
* When by the vehicle of ミツビシ part, wiring of the injector is designated as the increase and decrease quantity, it is judged as injector broken wire in ECU, it is the adapter which prevents the fact that the engine check lamp lights up. (Necessary model) * GTO 1990 September - 2000 August

Trade name Price including tax Tax removal price CODE
GReddy e-manage Ultimate injector adapter 3 (for 6 cylinders) ¥5,250 ¥5,000 15901507

The price works out to about $40 US. Not bad. Looks like Greddy did their homework and wanted to sell us yet another option.

[BlackStealth]

Global injector sizing is only available if you completed stage 3 wiring. If you used this feature alone, you'll run into fuel cut eventually. My strategy is to modify the airflow signal for 450cc sized injectors (to overcome fuel cut), and have the remainder of the fuel correction done at after the ECU (directly at the fuel injector wiring). This way you'll have excellent drivability regardless of how big of an injector you have exceeding 450cc. Alternatively you could explore clamping the airflow signal to avoid fuel cut and add fuel based on the 4 bar map sensor reading and truely retain stock timing and avoid fuel cut.

Only stage 3 wiring makes it possible retain stock timing. Stage 1 and 2 does not as they're behaving like the blue emanage.

Yeah, the boomslang harness looks like a nice option.

I'll have to contact Mohd again and see what the ETA is for the adapter harness.