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BlackStealth · 11-03-2005, 06:03 AM

I would go with the Innovative LC1 wideband, as it is cheap and would get the job done. I think it's around $189 on 3sxperformance web site.

The Innovative LC1, or LM1, or PLX M300 wideband controllers have or can be configured to a linear output. Linear output is important as the AFR can be calculated really easily. Stay away from the zeitronix wideband as it is non-linear.

VR4 Henry · 11-03-2005, 09:12 AM

That's freaking awesome you'd take the time to help everyone do this!
Awesome thread. I've gotta help a buddy install this in a couple months -- should be cake

Mahdivr4 · 11-03-2005, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackStealth

I would go with the Innovative LC1 wideband, as it is cheap and would get the job done. I think it's around $189 on 3sxperformance web site.

The Innovative LC1, or LM1, or PLX M300 wideband controllers have or can be configured to a linear output. Linear output is important as the AFR can be calculated really easily. Stay away from the zeitronix wideband as it is non-linear.

so when i hook up te LC1 wideband to the emanage, then i can see my Air/Fuel on the laptop?

again thanks a lot for all your help!!!

mahdi

BlackStealth · 11-03-2005, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahdivr4

so when i hook up te LC1 wideband to the emanage, then i can see my Air/Fuel on the laptop?

Yup, that's correct.

Joez VR4 · 11-05-2005, 08:21 AM

Today against the Ultimate installation instructions I hooked up the brown wire to the RPM signal from the ECU instead of using the crank angle sensor and changed it to rpm signal type in the vehicle parameters. What a difference, I get all clean lines in my logs now and the map trace works properly. Before the map trace would jump around and some of the logged values jumped above and below a normal line. The RPM seems correct on high end also. I was having a difficult time fine tuning the fuel cut limiter feature. This should make a big difference.

I will report back after some road testing.

Joez VR4 · 11-06-2005, 10:15 AM

Got out last night for a test drive using the RPM signal. It works perfect, the fuel cut feature works flawless using the ECU rpm signal instead of the crank angle sender.

BlackStealth · 11-06-2005, 07:40 PM

Thanks for the contribution Joez VR4. So it's best to use the RPM wire.

Joez VR4 · 11-07-2005, 11:04 AM

Knight and day difference. The car ran great and you would not have known because these fluctuations jump above and below so fast. Trying to set the fuel cut feature at the right rpm point and give it the proper fuel disclosed the problem. I would have to send you some before and after pics of the logs for you to better understand what I explained. I will have to install a program with a screen capture feature on my laptop or install Emange software on the desktop to get you some pics. The logs showed what was happing, I thought it was a problem with the EMU logger. When I started playing with the fuel cut eliminator I found what I was seeing was actually happening. The log showed that the rpm signal jumped above and below its value and got worse in the higher rpms. The timing, HZ and IDC line followed the rpm. Now using the rpm signal from the ECU I get clean lines and no jump in values just normal sweeps for the demand. The map trace also moves normal from cell to cell dependant on load and rpm, before it would jump around. A neat software feature that helped me diagnose this problem is from the logger graph you can click on a certain point and get a red vertical line to display the logged values it also high lights the corresponding cell in the maps in red.

Yes for those that have the RPM wire hooked up from stage one LEAVE IT hooked up when wiring stage Three. The E-01 Pressure Sensor Harness that can substitute the Air/Fuel harness is still on backorder. After I fine tune the a/f ratio I will share my current map.

BlackStealth · 11-07-2005, 02:49 PM

See my other thread for using a GM Boost solenoid as an electronic boost controller.

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread....62#post3299562

Rebel · 11-08-2005, 08:56 PM

Ok to go mafless, how woul du wire up the baro signal and iat signal??? Oh and as for the maft pro i guess u don't need baro since the maft pro already has a resistor in it or something???

11-03-2005, 06:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
BlackStealth Verified Seller Join Date: Apr 2000 Drives: 93 RT/TT Trader Rating: (162)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- I would go with the Innovative LC1 wideband, as it is cheap and would get the job done. I think it's around $189 on 3sxperformance web site. The Innovative LC1, or LM1, or PLX M300 wideband controllers have or can be configured to a linear output. Linear output is important as the AFR can be calculated really easily. Stay away from the zeitronix wideband as it is non-linear.

11-03-2005, 09:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
VR4 Henry 25 Spline Snapper Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Drives: IS350 Trader Rating: (14)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- That's freaking awesome you'd take the time to help everyone do this! Awesome thread. I've gotta help a buddy install this in a couple months -- should be cake __________________ '06 IS350 - Lux. Pkg \| ML/NAV \| '99 VR4 - 33k miles \| Sold 7/3/06 '91 VR4 -Modded \| Sold 1/06

11-05-2005, 08:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
Joez VR4 Verified Seller Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Connecticut Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (15)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- Today against the Ultimate installation instructions I hooked up the brown wire to the RPM signal from the ECU instead of using the crank angle sensor and changed it to rpm signal type in the vehicle parameters. What a difference, I get all clean lines in my logs now and the map trace works properly. Before the map trace would jump around and some of the logged values jumped above and below a normal line. The RPM seems correct on high end also. I was having a difficult time fine tuning the fuel cut limiter feature. This should make a big difference. I will report back after some road testing. __________________ 60k service, K&N Intake, Dejon tolls intake pipes, custom TDO4 hybrids WRX 9 psi springs, HKS hard pipes, DSM sidemounts, all 2”, DSM bov and adaptor, HTS couplers and TB reducer, DN Y pipe, gasket matched headers, pre cat eliminators, ESP downpipe, 3” test pipe, Borla cat back. RC 550 injectors, eK2mfg Fuel Rail loop, AEM Fuel pressure regulator with Rob’s adaptor, IPO hi flow fuel kit, walbro 255LPH pump, resister bypass, M-Spec Vacuum Reduction Kit, EGR block off plates. Magnicore wires, NGK R5672A-8 @ .30 Poly mounts, Unorthodox Underdrive Crank Pulley Kit, Autometer a pillar pod, boost, egt, fuel pressure, AEM wideband, Blitz dsbc Boost Controller, E-manage Ultimate, Mirage datalogger, Pioneeer DEH-P860 MP, amp, new infinity speakers, Optima red top battery, New ECS struts, intraz springs, Adjustable Rear Control Arms, New outer tie Rod Ends, Slotted dimple rotors, 3SX Stainless-Steel Braided Brake Lines, clutch line, Speed-bleeder valves, Front Active Aero Simulator. Dunlop 17” tires, G-Tech meter. PTE 750 in the tool box. Running speed density with the Ultimate. Gutted meter or dual intake pipes going on next. Future, motor internals, clutch, lighter rotating mass, AWS delete, some weight reduction and Paint Most pepole listen not with the intent to understand but with the intent to reply Stephen Covey

11-06-2005, 10:15 AM	#16 (permalink)
Joez VR4 Verified Seller Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Connecticut Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (15)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- Got out last night for a test drive using the RPM signal. It works perfect, the fuel cut feature works flawless using the ECU rpm signal instead of the crank angle sender.

11-06-2005, 07:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
BlackStealth Verified Seller Join Date: Apr 2000 Drives: 93 RT/TT Trader Rating: (162)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- Thanks for the contribution Joez VR4. So it's best to use the RPM wire.

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11-07-2005, 11:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
Joez VR4 Verified Seller Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Connecticut Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (15)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- Knight and day difference. The car ran great and you would not have known because these fluctuations jump above and below so fast. Trying to set the fuel cut feature at the right rpm point and give it the proper fuel disclosed the problem. I would have to send you some before and after pics of the logs for you to better understand what I explained. I will have to install a program with a screen capture feature on my laptop or install Emange software on the desktop to get you some pics. The logs showed what was happing, I thought it was a problem with the EMU logger. When I started playing with the fuel cut eliminator I found what I was seeing was actually happening. The log showed that the rpm signal jumped above and below its value and got worse in the higher rpms. The timing, HZ and IDC line followed the rpm. Now using the rpm signal from the ECU I get clean lines and no jump in values just normal sweeps for the demand. The map trace also moves normal from cell to cell dependant on load and rpm, before it would jump around. A neat software feature that helped me diagnose this problem is from the logger graph you can click on a certain point and get a red vertical line to display the logged values it also high lights the corresponding cell in the maps in red. Yes for those that have the RPM wire hooked up from stage one LEAVE IT hooked up when wiring stage Three. The E-01 Pressure Sensor Harness that can substitute the Air/Fuel harness is still on backorder. After I fine tune the a/f ratio I will share my current map.

11-07-2005, 02:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
BlackStealth Verified Seller Join Date: Apr 2000 Drives: 93 RT/TT Trader Rating: (162)	Add a GM Boost solenoid as an EBC for $10.32 See my other thread for using a GM Boost solenoid as an electronic boost controller. http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread....62#post3299562

11-08-2005, 08:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rebel Broke Ass Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Drives: 92 VRFizzle Trader Rating: (15)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Thread =- Ok to go mafless, how woul du wire up the baro signal and iat signal??? Oh and as for the maft pro i guess u don't need baro since the maft pro already has a resistor in it or something??? __________________ 1992 3000GT VR4 Mods- Testpipe, Downpipe, Vac Reduction, Gutted Kitties, K&N, Dual Stage MBC, Egr Block Offs, Relocated Battery, Hotwired Fuel Pump, Intrax Lowering Springs, Adj. Camber Arms, Single 3" Exhaust