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[bayezid_f1]

Here is my ECU pinout


Here is the description how i connect those wire..

26 pin block

#E=sensor ground---------EMU pin 30
#1=injector CH1---(cut)---input pin 17 and output pin 34
#2=injector CH2---(cut)---input pin 18 and output pin 35
#3=injector CH3---(cut)---input pin 19 and output pin 36
#4=injector CH4---(cut)---input pin 20 and output pin 42
E= Ground-----------------pin 24
t= ignition-------(cut)-----input pin 5 and output pin 12
I=RPM signal(not connected)

16 pin block

Kn= knock signal-----------pin 32
Ar= airflow/map sensor signal----(cut)---(from sensor)input pin 15 and (to ecu)output pin 22

Th=throttle signal----------pin 16
A= air intake temp---------pin 38

12 pin block

Ne=crank angle signal------pin 33
G= cam angle signal--------pin 39

22 pin block

B+=power-----------------pin 25
SPD=vehicle speed signal---(cut)----input pin 41(from sensor) and output pin 40(to ecu)


please guys let me know if i have done any mistake here

[Racer_X]

There isn't really much I can do for you without examining the box and car itself. Teh EMU has jumpers inside of it that you NEED to adjust for your current setup. if you haven't opened the box and configured those correctly, that is probably the problem. The installation manual should be floating around online and it will explain all the specifics of what jumpers do what and what needs to go where. I would reccomend that if you aren't familiar with all of the workings of your car's ECU or haven't done a lot of engine management work before that you take the car to a shop and let them have a crack at it first.

[Gray Haze]

Originally Posted by bayezid_f1

Here is my ECU pinout

Here is the description how i connect those wire..

26 pin block

#E=sensor ground---------EMU pin 30
#1=injector CH1---(cut)---input pin 17 and output pin 34
#2=injector CH2---(cut)---input pin 18 and output pin 35
#3=injector CH3---(cut)---input pin 19 and output pin 36
#4=injector CH4---(cut)---input pin 20 and output pin 42
E= Ground-----------------pin 24
t= ignition-------(cut)-----input pin 5 and output pin 12
I=RPM signal(not connected)

16 pin block

Kn= knock signal-----------pin 32
Ar= airflow/map sensor signal----(cut)---(from sensor)input pin 15 and (to ecu)output pin 22

Th=throttle signal----------pin 16
A= air intake temp---------pin 38

12 pin block

Ne=crank angle signal------pin 33
G= cam angle signal--------pin 39

22 pin block

B+=power-----------------pin 25
SPD=vehicle speed signal---(cut)----input pin 41(from sensor) and output pin 40(to ecu)


please guys let me know if i have done any mistake here

Dude, have you tried the MR2 boards? I know guys there that DO run this system, and they have a forum dedicated to it.

[bayezid_f1]

Originally Posted by Racer_X

There isn't really much I can do for you without examining the box and car itself. Teh EMU has jumpers inside of it that you NEED to adjust for your current setup. if you haven't opened the box and configured those correctly, that is probably the problem. The installation manual should be floating around online and it will explain all the specifics of what jumpers do what and what needs to go where. I would reccomend that if you aren't familiar with all of the workings of your car's ECU or haven't done a lot of engine management work before that you take the car to a shop and let them have a crack at it first.

thank you for your reply. the jumper settings wasn't in my mind as i left it default factory setup..thanx for reminding me..i am sure i need to change jumper settings. i live in bangladesh here people really dont know much about car modification..its me alone who is working on a turbo project...so all i can do try my best to do all modification by myself

Originally Posted by Gray Haze

Dude, have you tried the MR2 boards? I know guys there that DO run this system, and they have a forum dedicated to it.

dude can i have the link where they have discussed their setup?

[bayezid_f1]

problem solved .. it was jumper settings!..:P thanx everyone who helped me through this..

i would be glad if anyone know any link where ppl discussed mr2 engine map tuning. thanx

[Gray Haze]

did you try MR2OC.com?

[mike92stealthtt]

Hey guys, I am researching now between a EMU or an AEM EMS for a 16g car that I am saving to build.

I have never tuned before but know that with a decent base map, studying, practice, and this forum that I could become good enough in a couple weeks and I would love the challenge. I have read many threads debating between EMU and AEM but would like some current takes from your side. I am very concerned about getting something and then wishing for more when the difference between a used EMU w/ boomslang and sensors and a used AEM and sensors is ~$400.

The big thing that has me holding back about going EMU is the thought of constantly having to trick the ECU and deal with it changing fuel trims and such. I monitor my fuel trims all the time on my car and I can see them changing all the time, especially the low. I understand that some of you guys unplug your NBO2's, and I also have a first gen so I wouldn't throw a CEL. My question is how is the tunability without NBO2's and does EMU give you enough tools? Do you feel that you can get the tune down to where you feel it's extremely streetable and runs smooth in all loading scenarios?

Also I've read Trevor's posts about properly sizing injectors, but I have access to E85 at times and would like to have larger injectors to run them. This makes timing on pump gas a real issue. I know EMU has timing control and 2 maps, but are any of you guys doing this? I've read of issues with large injectors and pulse widths and wondered whether this is an issue for EMU users.

Also I will be running in Speed density mode.

Any other inputs would be great too including overall experiences. I've read so much of this thread and the AEM thread but all I ever hear is about problems rather than success stories.

Mike

[Racer_X]

Well, I run 850cc injectors in my car, but I am running normal fuel. drivability of the car is great. I primarily use one ignition map, but I actually have a few points in my second ignition map to help keep my idle speed under control (my idle is currently set around 1000 rpm with the big cams and I open the throttle a bit more and retard -20 degrees of timing at 0% throttle at 1500 to make sure the idle doesn't creep up.). other than that, I just use one map. I would reccomend making an E85 file and a Pump gas file 'though if you can run both. wouldn't be that difficult. With the EMU I am able to rev teh car to where ever I want, launch at whatever RPM I want, adjust whichever cylinder I want (with both fuel and ignition), compensate for water temp, air temp, speed, air/fuel, throttle acceleration, and still control water injection and a shift light. I am using a Q45 throttle body, and have adjusted the TPS inputs so that the car doesn't do that wierd bucking under low throttle because of the increased air flow at low throttle, and everything is logable. it took a bit of figuring out, but aside from not having my flat shift feature work properly, I love the EMU, and don't consider a scenario where I would ever need to run anything else. I even have my stock narrowbands hooked up, and my AF ratios are fine all across the board (except for from 1500 to 2000 at 10 to 35% throttle, but that's just because I have been too lazy to fix it . The fact that I can run individual coils with the EMU is the biggest selling point to me. it works GREAT (took some figuring out, but none the less, works GREAT) All I needed to buy was an extra PTU, an extra Coil pack, and a dakota digital tach interface, do some fancy wiring and voila!

[mike92stealthtt]

Originally Posted by Racer_X

Well, I run 850cc injectors in my car, but I am running normal fuel. drivability of the car is great. I primarily use one ignition map, but I actually have a few points in my second ignition map to help keep my idle speed under control (my idle is currently set around 1000 rpm with the big cams and I open the throttle a bit more and retard -20 degrees of timing at 0% throttle at 1500 to make sure the idle doesn't creep up.). other than that, I just use one map. I would reccomend making an E85 file and a Pump gas file 'though if you can run both. wouldn't be that difficult. With the EMU I am able to rev teh car to where ever I want, launch at whatever RPM I want, adjust whichever cylinder I want (with both fuel and ignition), compensate for water temp, air temp, speed, air/fuel, throttle acceleration, and still control water injection and a shift light. I am using a Q45 throttle body, and have adjusted the TPS inputs so that the car doesn't do that wierd bucking under low throttle because of the increased air flow at low throttle, and everything is logable. it took a bit of figuring out, but aside from not having my flat shift feature work properly, I love the EMU, and don't consider a scenario where I would ever need to run anything else. I even have my stock narrowbands hooked up, and my AF ratios are fine all across the board (except for from 1500 to 2000 at 10 to 35% throttle, but that's just because I have been too lazy to fix it . The fact that I can run individual coils with the EMU is the biggest selling point to me. it works GREAT (took some figuring out, but none the less, works GREAT) All I needed to buy was an extra PTU, an extra Coil pack, and a dakota digital tach interface, do some fancy wiring and voila!

Thanks for the input man.

[dfz3000gt]

I was wondering what the best way to go about adding the EMU to my car with all the other new parts.
I'm running 580's with dr650s and safcII.

I will be going to the ips evo kit with 880s and fmic.
I want to add the EMU w/ boomslang in stage 3 (maybe) and SD mode.

Is it better to get the hardware up and running prior to installing the EMU or EMU first?

Also, who needs stage 3 vs stage 2.5? What feature would be beneficial vs harmful?

I wasnt sure, I thought if got the EMU tuned on my old setup first that the setup will change so much that I would have to retune it from scratch anyway. Its also possible I will have to pay to get it tuned right so again didnt wanna do it twice.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Domingo