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Old 08-28-2007, 11:16 PM   #1101 (permalink)
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1, I thought you could wire any Greddy gauge thru the serial port, even WB.
2, I am talking about the (wire 13) input to the EMU, not the ECU, I know it still needs to see Hz.
3, in my instruction on page 22 it says
"Logging feature can be triggered by RSS or by a switch connected to option 1or2.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:20 AM   #1102 (permalink)
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1, I thought you could wire any Greddy gauge thru the serial port, even WB.
2, I am talking about the (wire 13) input to the EMU, not the ECU, I know it still needs to see Hz.
3, in my instruction on page 22 it says
"Logging feature can be triggered by RSS or by a switch connected to option 1or2.
1. Yup the serial port is used for things like Greddy EGT guage,etc. Never heard of a WB guage from greddy, but if they did make one it would probably most likely work there too.
2. The airflow (V) in is not used at all. When you configure your greddy software for 6G72, it then expects to use HZ (in and out signals) and ignores airflow (V).
3. The option ports are best used for WB and Boost inputs, leaving no available room for a switch. For this reason it's best to use the switch on the designated remote switch.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:41 AM   #1103 (permalink)
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greddy doesn't make a wideband. they make a narrowband gauge. if you have one, you can log it on the EMU datalogger by running it into the serial connector, but you can't tune with it. you have to have a real wideband wired into one of the option ports.

to run in speed density mode, you HAVE to use Greddy's map sensor, and it HAS to be plugged into either option 1 or 2 inputs. You can't convert a factory map sensor (which is the input you were asking about) to a karman frequency output with the EMU as far as I know.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:08 PM   #1104 (permalink)
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Oh I see. I was wiring mine yesterday and couldnt figur out how to get the airflow into the EMU, knowing I had a Greddy boost sensor and that it plugged into the option port, but I was still looking to use one of the "Airflow in' wires

I have an LC1, was just trying to use something other than "option" plug to use it.


With the "Switch", its a 1/8 phono plug, correct.
this means theres three contact, the tip, the center and the shield.
I guess the switch would go between the tip and the center? or is it a ground that gets applied to one of the wires?

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Old 08-30-2007, 02:51 AM   #1105 (permalink)
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So the YELLOW plug is the one that goes into the EMU, and we're looking at the "bottom side" of that plug? so if I'm looking straight into option port 1, the white wire (in that yellow plug) will contact the pin on the LEFT, the center pin will be unused and the right pin (or white wire on the yellow plug) will be GROUND?????????
I have everything in except the WB sensor itself, as it was getting too late to continue, AND I don't know exactly where to weld the bung??? Where do you suggest? I had an AEM/AEM WB in my last car, and was advised to install about 18" down from the O2/DP flange (DSM)
My DP goes all the way to the Borla "catback" entry flange. I'm open to installing it wherever is BEST.

Got my Carputer today
The f-er is contoured on the front EXACTLY like thecarpeted trim panel on the drivers side of the console (where your right knee would rest against it. I'm mounting in there just as soon as I can fabricate a dash support system utilizing a structural "bezel" much akin to a CD head unit mounting sleeve -only big enough to mount the carputer in, and stronger than the drivers side dash support column. I have LOADS of room in there, as all I'm using is a Lilliput in the factory location (like Blackstealth's )
A couple Prosport gauges are in and installed today too Elect. Boost, and Fuel Pressure.
One signal wire from the Innovate goes to the EMU, The serial in and out go to the PC for Logworks2.x, and I have another signal wire that is recommended for a gauge. My question is: will this work with a Prosport air/fuel gauge? To tune and control, I have the EMU AND Logworks, I'd REALLY like to have a (matching) gauge as well, just for general monitoring.
It would be the SHIT if I could calibrate from Logworks on one of the outputs so as to match the Prosport gauges range.
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Now, the wideband thing. Take a look at this:



Says that the white wire is to your A/F signal from the lc-1. The black wire is to ground. So if you're looking at the emu side where the option ports are, the left pin is signal from the wideband, right pin is ground. Now with the LC-1, I believe that goes off the lambda value. The sensor works by giving a certain voltage on the signal wire for each value. According to their little picture, 0.0v is an AFR of 7.35 and 5.0v is an AFR of 22.39. Also says there are 2 outputs, so you'll only need to mess with one of those. As far as the settings on the emu, you will most likely just need to change the range. You can always set the other output up to your PC and use their logworks software to compare values.

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When I hooked up my WB to emanage, at first I only installed the white wire (0-5V analog) and it works fine. Later I decided to hook up the ground wire and saw zero difference, so it may not be necessary for you to hook yours up either. Also my WB02 controller ground wire is using a ground source close to my ECU so that may explain why it was unnecessary for me as both grounds are in close proximity.

My WB02 sensor is in the downpipe where the two exhaust streams merge in one o-clock position. WB02 sensors should be between 10 and 2 o'clock positions so moisture won't become a problem.

Any pics of your carputer? It's hard to imagine based on your description.
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My wife's going to help document the installation starting tonight. We intend to start a webpage, and offer a couple vehicle specific carputer kits with install kit options. I'll photobucket a few snaps myself though and get 'em up here in the meantime...

I'm being careful to ground everything together and I am grounded in the vicinity of the drivers' kick panel.

Now the pic of the A/F harness, the YELLOW is the one that goes into the emanage, right?
And was my observation correct?
That being:
we're looking at the "bottom side" of that plug? so if I'm looking straight into option port 1, the white wire (in that yellow plug) will contact the pin on the LEFT, the center pin will be unused and the right pin (or white wire on the yellow plug) will be GROUND?????????
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Both the yellow plug and white plug look identical/interchangeable to me so it doesn't matter which one you pick.


When the AF harness is plugged into emanage, the white wire will be on the right hand side.
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My wife's going to help document the installation starting tonight. We intend to start a webpage, and offer a couple vehicle specific carputer kits with install kit options. I'll photobucket a few snaps myself though and get 'em up here in the meantime...

I'm being careful to ground everything together and I am grounded in the vicinity of the drivers' kick panel.

Now the pic of the A/F harness, the YELLOW is the one that goes into the emanage, right?
And was my observation correct?
That being:
we're looking at the "bottom side" of that plug? so if I'm looking straight into option port 1, the white wire (in that yellow plug) will contact the pin on the LEFT, the center pin will be unused and the right pin (or white wire on the yellow plug) will be GROUND?????????
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....With the "Switch", its a 1/8 phono plug, correct.
this means theres three contact, the tip, the center and the shield.
I guess the switch would go between the tip and the center? or is it a ground that gets applied to one of the wires?
anybody know?
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