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Jeremy C · 08-15-2006, 05:34 AM

The only downfall to the fast-paced updates of new stuff from Bob is that the tuner-pro software can't keep up.

Most everything else is in Tuner-pro, but the newest items are still not added.

junglesmacks · 08-15-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by templar

Was there a rundown somewhere of what all the timing adjustment settings mean? Also, is there some option that needs to be set to enable it, or if I just rewire as per instructions and turn on the car will it just work?

As per bob as replied to at my post on www.fullthrottletech.com:

http://www.fullthrottletech.com/showthread.php?t=2180

"set vehicle select to 2, this enables the direct timing control.

Use the WOT timing page for adjustments. Timing control is enabled above 1000 RPM.

There are no other settings for timing.

4.65 is beta software, so there is no manual (yet....)"

Highboosted · 08-15-2006, 06:55 PM

Anyone but me think thats NOT a good idea?

WOT timing is one thing, forcing a set timing reguardless of load might not be the best idea, me thinks. Same timing for part throttle as WOT throttle = poor part throttle timing (retarded) and higher EGT's.

What I was hoping for was an adjustment from the factory timing: so I can retard 2 degrees at 5500 RPM, from whatever the stock ECU wants 5500 RPM's timing to be, which it changes from 35 BTDC to 22 BTDC in my car depending on load. Instead what I think the MAFT-Pro does is force 28 degrees (or whatever you set it at) no matter the load. Either that or I'm not getting these numbers on the MAft-pro right.....

TurboBob · 08-15-2006, 07:04 PM

on the 3S, when you set vehicle select to 2, you get to adjust timing from the factory setting. +5 to -10. There is no load threshold or anything yet, it is very much like an ITC, which is why we started there. We may add a load axis at some point, but wanted to get this stuff out on the street as soon as we could.

It works pretty well.

Bob

TurboBob · 08-15-2006, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highboosted

What I was hoping for was an adjustment from the factory timing: so I can retard 2 degrees at 5500 RPM,....

That's what you got........

Highboosted · 08-15-2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboBob

That's what you got........

but what I see is 15-30 or something. What numer corresponds to 0 correction?

I'm totally not getting this...I was expecting -10 to +5 numbers.....maybe I was working too hard today and my brain is jello........

TurboBob · 08-15-2006, 07:37 PM

you have to adjust it on the Pro. The scaling is not right in tunerpro yet.

with version 4.63 and later, when vehicle select is 2, the WOT timing page will adjust from -10 to +5

Bob

Highboosted · 08-15-2006, 07:39 PM

I'm an idiot.

vehicle select was wrong because my MFI relay powers down too quickly, so I had it set to 0.

[edit]: Thanks Bob......GReddy ain't got shit on you guy's tech support!

junglesmacks · 08-15-2006, 08:06 PM

"Who feels it knows it Lord.."
-(The "other" Bob

)

Out of curiosity, with vehicle select at 2, how does the box save the data? Is it 3 secs after selection or upon shutdown like veh. 1?

TurboBob · 08-15-2006, 08:31 PM

same as 1.

3 sec after RPM=0. If the car is not running, then 3 sec after you make the change.

B

08-15-2006, 05:34 AM	#1351 (permalink)
Jeremy C Hitokiri Battousai Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Detroit Drives: A car that runs Trader Rating: (47)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- The only downfall to the fast-paced updates of new stuff from Bob is that the tuner-pro software can't keep up. Most everything else is in Tuner-pro, but the newest items are still not added. __________________ 3STech.org - Because everyone can't be winners. Off topic and work safe

08-15-2006, 06:55 PM	#1353 (permalink)
Highboosted king of ghetto Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Drives: '94 Stealth Turbo Trader Rating: (29)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- Anyone but me think thats NOT a good idea? WOT timing is one thing, forcing a set timing reguardless of load might not be the best idea, me thinks. Same timing for part throttle as WOT throttle = poor part throttle timing (retarded) and higher EGT's. What I was hoping for was an adjustment from the factory timing: so I can retard 2 degrees at 5500 RPM, from whatever the stock ECU wants 5500 RPM's timing to be, which it changes from 35 BTDC to 22 BTDC in my car depending on load. Instead what I think the MAFT-Pro does is force 28 degrees (or whatever you set it at) no matter the load. Either that or I'm not getting these numbers on the MAft-pro right..... __________________ pıdnʇs 'ɹǝʌo ǝɯ dılɟ Official member of the "I upgraded everything in my car and now it's slower than stock" club.

08-15-2006, 07:04 PM	#1354 (permalink)
TurboBob Resident mad scientist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Near Detroit Drives: 86 GN 91 RT/TT Trader Rating: (17)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- on the 3S, when you set vehicle select to 2, you get to adjust timing from the factory setting. +5 to -10. There is no load threshold or anything yet, it is very much like an ITC, which is why we started there. We may add a load axis at some point, but wanted to get this stuff out on the street as soon as we could. It works pretty well. Bob __________________ Need a datalogger? Check out the Scanmaster 3 PM me about ECU mods for 8000+ RPM rev limits !!!!!!!! Stock = 7300 RPM Stage 1 = 8060 RPM Stage 2 = 8200 RPM Stage 3 = 8400 RPM Stage 4 = 8800 RPM (By request only) 1991 Stealth RT/TT, Grooms Shortblock, 13G's. My Stealth is for sale, 65000 miles, runs perfectly. $6,500 (a bargain)

08-15-2006, 07:37 PM	#1357 (permalink)
TurboBob Resident mad scientist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Near Detroit Drives: 86 GN 91 RT/TT Trader Rating: (17)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- you have to adjust it on the Pro. The scaling is not right in tunerpro yet. with version 4.63 and later, when vehicle select is 2, the WOT timing page will adjust from -10 to +5 Bob

08-15-2006, 07:39 PM	#1358 (permalink)
Highboosted king of ghetto Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Drives: '94 Stealth Turbo Trader Rating: (29)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- I'm an idiot. vehicle select was wrong because my MFI relay powers down too quickly, so I had it set to 0. [edit]: Thanks Bob......GReddy ain't got shit on you guy's tech support! Last edited by Highboosted : 08-15-2006 at 07:44 PM.

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08-15-2006, 08:06 PM	#1359 (permalink)
junglesmacks gettin' buck wild yo Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lake Mary, FL Drives: with a grin! Trader Rating: (3)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- "Who feels it knows it Lord.." -(The "other" Bob ) Out of curiosity, with vehicle select at 2, how does the box save the data? Is it 3 secs after selection or upon shutdown like veh. 1?

08-15-2006, 08:31 PM	#1360 (permalink)
TurboBob Resident mad scientist Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Near Detroit Drives: 86 GN 91 RT/TT Trader Rating: (17)	Re: ---===The Official MAFT-Pro Thread===--- same as 1. 3 sec after RPM=0. If the car is not running, then 3 sec after you make the change. B

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