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Old 05-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default VSS installation removal/installation tool tips

So i gathered most of my parts together to do my VSS and started stripping the engine down. I removed all of the valvetrain components including the camshafts, roller rockers, etc then brought home my valve spring retainer remover/installer tool i use for Toyota engines only to realize that it wont work for a Mits engine. After talking to all the techs in the shop today- i compared different tools of the same design and borrowed a few to take home to try. Low and behold- i found the right tool- perfect for the job.

Blue Point GA317 (WORKS GREAT!!)


Comparison with other tool of similar design- spring loaded installer tip is too thick to fit between the keepers when installing. Attempting to use this tool only pushes down on the valve (which is something you DON'T want to do)




Note : Put the cylinder being serviced at TDC and apply 100PSI into the cylinder to hold the valves up against the valve seats. I used my leak down tester to do this.

The remover works well- removing the retainer and keeper in one hard push. Its magnetic so it holds the retainer and catches the keepers into the tool- no worries about loosing the small keepers. Simply center the remover over the valve spring retainer and push down. With the retainer and keepers in your possession, you are now able to pull the VSS off of the valve guide and install a fresh set. I used a 13mm Snap On deep socket to seat the VSS onto the valve guide.



Once the VSS is in place you can now reinstall the retainer. Position the valve spring back into place. Load the keepers into the retainer and position the retainer over the valve spring. The keepers will fit snug around the top of the valve stem. Using the installation side of the tool- place the spring loaded tapered tip in between the keepers to center the tool. Then push down in one hard motion staying inline with the angle of the valve. As the outer edge of the tool pushes down on the retainer- the spring loaded center will spread the keepers while simultaneously pushing down on them. Once you push far enough, the keepers will snap into place with a definite click and your done.



As you can see- the tool simplifies the whole procedure. 1 cylinder (all 4 valves) in about 10 minutes- with no set up necessary aside from finding TDC and pressurizing the cylinder. I apologize in advance for the poor video quality. I employed both of my daughters- one to take the video and one to hold the flashlight. It took several attempts to get the video right- and you can kinda hear my frustrations.

Hope this is helpful!

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Old 05-05-2009, 01:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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that is very sweet....where can i get one of those at?
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i have the home made tool..and been fooling around with some extra complete heads my buddie let me use..and the home made tool is sorta hard ...plus i dont like the fact that it has a chance of sendind the keepers air bound either
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Very Nice!! . . . thanks for sharing!

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btw that tool can be got from here for 36 bucks
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link doesnt work . Can you get this off a snap-on truck?????
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i have the home made tool..and been fooling around with some extra complete heads my buddie let me use..and the home made tool is sorta hard ...plus i dont like the fact that it has a chance of sendind the keepers air bound either
When i worked for Mitsubishi several years ago- we used a lever type valve spring compressor. Being that the home made tool worked off of the same concept- i bought one too. Let me just say that it didn't take me long to realize that i'd better go another route. While it can work- it is very time consuming and difficult to use for installation... which leads to frustration. I do this stuff for a living with Toyota. The last thing i need is to be frustrated at home. I get enough of that at work.
I've used my tool several times before with Toyota engines and I assumed that all of the valve retainer tools were the same until i gathered up a few of them from my coworkers to make a comparison. I Once i found the tool with the smaller tip- i was confident it would work.
Blue Point is sold by Snap On Tools. You can order it online or from a Snap On jobber. Remember- there are several variations of this tool sold by different manufacturers. What is important is that the spring loaded tip on the installer fits in between the keepers. If it's too thick- i won't spread the keepers apart. If it's too thin, it won't push the keepers down. I have verified that this tool will work. The others i have tried did not.

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Nice tool and great writeup man. This makes the job a truly 1 person job. When I did mine with a homemade tool I didn't know how else to get the keepers off safely without having a second hand.
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Nice tool and great writeup man. This makes the job a truly 1 person job. When I did mine with a homemade tool I didn't know how else to get the keepers off safely without having a second hand.
that is what i am seein on my spare heads...i am gonna order this tool tomaorow...so i can get this done ..
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Nice tool and great writeup man. This makes the job a truly 1 person job. When I did mine with a homemade tool I didn't know how else to get the keepers off safely without having a second hand.
Definitely a one man job- though you'd better eat your Wheaties that day as it takes quite a push to compress those springs by hand. The firewall side difficult to compress unless you climb over the engine to put some weight on it. I've seen guys at work use a heavy 4lb mallet on the tool without any problems. Works just as efficiently. In fact- the instructions say to push or tap with a hammer.
I have 2 more rear cylinders to go so i'll be sure to bring home my 4 pounder from work tomorrow to give it a shot.

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