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Old 08-13-2008, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys do you have any vehicles that are track use only and you tow back and forth to the track? If so particularly in Virginia, what do you do with those types of vehicles? In Florida we do not have to have any kind of registration or what not, however seems to be a black hole for these types of cars status in Virginia. Reason being is I'm told I have to get a Virginia registration/tag, but how can you do that when the car can not and will not be driven on the street? DMV doesn't know the answer, Virginia department of transportation doesn't know the answer, and the local LE doesn't have a clue. Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I've never had to deal with this Ideocracy since I was in Florida or Alabama previously.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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in illinois, you can obtain a junking certificate, where you surrender the title of the car to the secretary of state. the junking certificate then becomes the legal paper for the car, and you no longer need to pay any insurance (because it's meant to be parted or crushed). but you need to be sure it's something you want to do here, you can't retitle the car ever again.

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This document is considered the death certificate of a vehicle. Once an Illinois Junking Certificate has been issued to a vehicle, that vehicle can never again be registered or titled in Illinois.
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Old 08-13-2008, 03:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, if thats whats necessary no problem, its just that Florida and Alabama don't care as long as the car is not driven on public streets and it is kept on private property. The car will never be driven on the street again. However here in Virginia it seems to be an issue, just owning such a car. No authority here can tell me what is necessary to do, so as it stands now, I'm just going to trailer the car back to Florida and park it at my place there. I would rather keep it here, but if I do the state of Virginia will confiscate it. Sounds silly, but thats what I'm getting from the local LE.
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The people that I know of around here just don't register the car. If you never drive it are park it on public streets the police can't say anything about it.
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Its going to depend on the area you live too. Some counties, cities, munipalities, or even HOA's might restrict it being in your driveway if its not registered.

There was someone from VA that had an officer stop and ticket his car because it was on jackstands and considered immobile or something along those lines.
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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In Virginia if the car is not registered it cannot be driven on the road except if by towtruck/flatbed. If it isnt you are allowed to keep it on your property, but the moment it leaves your yard except for being towed its going to be trouble.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well here is what I keep getting hit up for Prince William County Code 13-482
Inoperative vehicle shall mean any motor vehicle, trailer, or semi-trailer, as such are define in Section 46.2-100 of the Virginia code, which is not in operating condition; or does not display valid license plates; or does not display an inspection decal that is valid or does display an inspection decal that has been expired for more than 60 days.

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It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to keep, except within a fully enclosed building or structure or otherwise shielded or screened from view, on any property zoned or used for residential purposes, or on any property soned for commercial or agricultural purposes, any inoperative vehicle as such are defined in Section 13-482.

I argue that the particular vehicle can not be registered as a normal vehicle, it can not be operated on public roads. It does not meet the definition. Furthermore, federal law says that I am allowed to keep my vehicles registered in my state "home" of record Florida, since I'm active duty military. So the car can not legally have a tag and be driven on the road. Furthermore, the car is not required to have a safey inspection sticker as how would this pertain to a track vehicle.

The other issue is that this is an administrative order, I can appeal to the county executive, but have no recourse through the courts. After a few calls to the county exectives office they can not direct me to any code that pertains to track use only vehicles. It appears to be a black hole, there is nothing there. The result is that they will take the vehicle on 1 September without any due justice, of course I'll move it before that happens, but then I have to take leave from the Army, have to trailer the car all the way down to Florida, and put it in storage I guess.
Went over to the court house and did some researching in the law library and still could not find anything for track vehicles. I also learned that again their is no legal recourse, as in I can't take the county to court to argue this ordinance and how it definition does not apply to non-street legal vehicles, that are meant for track use.
Right now I have the vehicle parked in my private property asphalt driveway right next to the wifes Jeep Liberty. It looks just like a 3000GT on the outside with the interior stripped and a cage on the inside. So from a distance it looks like a regular car.

Is there a Virginia state code that would supercede a Prince William County Code or a loop hole so I can force the county into a court room if need be. There is a matter of principal here and it busts my chops to see how easy it is for local little governments to so easily trump private land owners rights and seize property without due process. I'm still giving the county executive time to get his ducks in a row, but if they keep giving me the run around I'm going to become a royal pain in the ass for them.
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Virginia is the Commufornia of the east.
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Pretty sure I read the same thing you posted. You just have to put the car in a garage or "out of sight"
You obviously dont want to do that so you are looking for a way out when the law already says how.

Thats a fairly common rule in a lot of stupid housing projects.
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according to 13-482 that you posted... it looks like your car would be considered an inoperative vehicle... unless there is something in 46.2-100 that would exclude your particluar case. if you are just going to put it in storage in fl... why not just put it in storage in va?
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