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eyekndy · 07-07-2008, 10:20 AM

Well you could adjust them pretty easy with these and this.

Stealthee · 07-07-2008, 10:46 AM

Even without EDFC you can adjust coilovers softness in under a minute with the turn of a knob on each coilover.

Adjusting height takes more effort.

Some people feel the softest setting still isnt soft enough.

PumpGasVR4 · 07-07-2008, 12:25 PM

One thing to keep in mind is that typically the Japanese coilover systems have a very narrow range of damping adjustment and are meant for one certain spring rate, meaning that you can't usually go to a softer spring without hurting your handling. And since they just don't adjust much, if you don't like the ride they give, oh well, you're stuck with it.

The European school of thought for coilover design is to give a very large adjustment range, meaning that you can actually go from comfort to track-stiff by just turning a few nobs. And you can also use different rate springs without a big negative effect.

To see what I mean, find the Sport Compact Car issue from a couple months ago when they tested a bunch of coilovers on S2000s. They show all of the empirical data and the Euro designs almost universally had a lot larger adjustment range.

91rtstealth · 07-07-2008, 06:10 PM

that's interested about the euro/japanease approach....i'll check into that...

i'm not worried about adjusting heigh easily..once that's set, i'm not going ot mess with it..i'd just like to be able to adjust the dampening easily....

basically i'm not looking to spend a fortune..i just want something that rides as good as stock did in tour mode or better...the intrax springs basically put my car in sport mode all the time...and now sport mode is like granite mode

Stealthee · 07-07-2008, 06:23 PM

You arent going to find aftermarket suspension that rides like stock tour mode.

DoctorDex · 07-07-2008, 07:37 PM

Although this might be out of your price range, it might be worthwhile looking for some JIC's with tender springs. The tender springs will absorb the smaller annoying bumps with ease you'll still have the larger springs to help with handling.

91rtstealth · 07-07-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthee

You arent going to find aftermarket suspension that rides like stock tour mode.

well that sucks..haha..that's pretty much what I was going for. Oh well..maybe things will be better when I move to Florida....PA roads are terrible...it's not so much that it really annoys me...i just sounds so bad for the car every time I hit a bump....and in turn, THAT annoys me....hah

bluemax_1 · 07-07-2008, 08:48 PM

Well, it actually is possible to find an aftermarket suspension that rides better than stock on tour mode, but you'ld have to try contacting a company like Ohlins for a custom sprung/valved setup. Cost would be approximately $5-$12k.

91rtstealth · 07-07-2008, 09:41 PM

screw that..haha..i'm not a baller...

07-07-2008, 10:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
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07-07-2008, 10:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (78)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... Even without EDFC you can adjust coilovers softness in under a minute with the turn of a knob on each coilover. Adjusting height takes more effort. Some people feel the softest setting still isnt soft enough. __________________ Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: my ass is really sore Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: this is most displeasing

07-07-2008, 12:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
PumpGasVR4 The cake is a lie! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Aurora, Co. Drives: about 75 topped out. Trader Rating: (0)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... One thing to keep in mind is that typically the Japanese coilover systems have a very narrow range of damping adjustment and are meant for one certain spring rate, meaning that you can't usually go to a softer spring without hurting your handling. And since they just don't adjust much, if you don't like the ride they give, oh well, you're stuck with it. The European school of thought for coilover design is to give a very large adjustment range, meaning that you can actually go from comfort to track-stiff by just turning a few nobs. And you can also use different rate springs without a big negative effect. To see what I mean, find the Sport Compact Car issue from a couple months ago when they tested a bunch of coilovers on S2000s. They show all of the empirical data and the Euro designs almost universally had a lot larger adjustment range. __________________ Atheist and proud of it! The meaning of life is what it means to you. Thank you to all our armed service men and women!

07-07-2008, 06:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
91rtstealth Dru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Drives: 91 Stealth R/t Stock Trader Rating: (0)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... that's interested about the euro/japanease approach....i'll check into that... i'm not worried about adjusting heigh easily..once that's set, i'm not going ot mess with it..i'd just like to be able to adjust the dampening easily.... basically i'm not looking to spend a fortune..i just want something that rides as good as stock did in tour mode or better...the intrax springs basically put my car in sport mode all the time...and now sport mode is like granite mode

07-07-2008, 06:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (78)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... You arent going to find aftermarket suspension that rides like stock tour mode.

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07-07-2008, 07:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
DoctorDex Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edmonton, AB Drives: '91 VR4 - RIP Trader Rating: (15)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... Although this might be out of your price range, it might be worthwhile looking for some JIC's with tender springs. The tender springs will absorb the smaller annoying bumps with ease you'll still have the larger springs to help with handling. __________________ '91 VR4 - Rebuild in progress: Mods TBA.

07-07-2008, 08:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
bluemax_1 July 2003 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MI Drives: '94 VR-4 Trader Rating: (16)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... Well, it actually is possible to find an aftermarket suspension that rides better than stock on tour mode, but you'ld have to try contacting a company like Ohlins for a custom sprung/valved setup. Cost would be approximately $5-$12k. __________________ 1994 3000GT VR-4. Hobbies... what are hobbies? Oh, those things people do when they're NOT working on their cars?

07-07-2008, 09:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
91rtstealth Dru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Drives: 91 Stealth R/t Stock Trader Rating: (0)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... screw that..haha..i'm not a baller...