suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

91rtstealth · 07-06-2008, 07:14 PM

i just took my stealth on a road trip this weekend...I currently have the stock ecs suspension on it with intrax springs...i got the springs years ago to eliminate horrible wheel gap on my car, however, i'm getting older now, and the ride comfort is annoying me...especially since I live in PA, where the roads are terrible...

i was thinking of getting coil overs for it..i'd return to stock, but I can't deal with the wheel gap.plus I know the ecs will take a crap sooner or later.

..i like the car with a lowered stance...i'm looking for some nice adjustable coil overs...i'm more concerned with ride comfort than handling..i don't ever plan on taking the car to a track or anything..it's a non turbo, so it's not exactly lightning fast...i basically use the car for local ripping around on back roads and the occasional long distance trip...so i'd like something that will keep descent handling but give me some better ride comfort..the intrax is brutal....

any suggestions..i don't know a whole lot about suspension...

Hubbell86 · 07-06-2008, 07:48 PM

24 isnt old

but i cant really answer your questions but i can agree that the roads here suck ass.

91rtstealth · 07-06-2008, 07:51 PM

yeah...it's true...i'm not old yet, but i'm starting to actually care about ride quality now..haha..it's brutal driving that thing through towns with cracked roads and man-hole covers and all that stuff...it's irritating...i went through Philly today and that was horrible..haha..

Stealthee · 07-06-2008, 07:54 PM

Dude I am almost 28 and I am far from old.

As for your question. Ride comfort and coilovers dont go hand in hand. I love my coilovers and the ride is far from terrible. Others might not agree to this testament but its my opinion.

Coilovers might be only marginally better in ride comfort because they are valved for the spring rate, etc.

MustGoFaster · 07-06-2008, 08:03 PM

I haven't seen any coil overs with an emphasis on ride comfort. With my K sports, most concrete roads I end up feeling like a bobble head doll. I'm ok with the bigger bumps here and there, but the undulation on concrete roads really gets my neck on trips over an hour.

91rtstealth · 07-06-2008, 08:08 PM

really? I was told that coil overs were the way to go....my stock shocks with intrax springs is really rough....can't you manually adjust ride height and stiffness on some of them?

Stealthee · 07-06-2008, 08:39 PM

Yes. Coilovers are fully adjustable. I can drop my car even more than it sits now. It has 32 dampening settings.

For every day driving it stays on the softest settings.

I have a very high tolerance so I am a bit skewed. I have no issues with the ride of driving my car on PA roads. The most uncofortable road I dealt with was a section of a NJ Interstate (cant remember which of the top of my head), where the expansion joints were over emphasized.

It royally sucked. But for comparison the first time I was ever on that road was in my TSi with stock suspension and I thought something was broke it rode so rough.

For best results find someone in your area with coilovers and have them take you for a ride,

Highboosted · 07-06-2008, 08:46 PM

With coilovers, I'm not going to suggest a brand or spring rate because that all depends on your needs, budget, weight and distribution.

But coilovers with custom rate springs will fit what you want. There are also ECS strut/spring combos that provide the ride you want, but will not provide the drop of Intrax springs, but do make a huge improvement in looks. Eibach is on the comfort end of the spectrum opposite Intrax, with the various Tein springs in between.

PumpGasVR4 · 07-06-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MustGoFaster

I haven't seen any coil overs with an emphasis on ride comfort.

Welcome to KW automotive North America Inc.

I have no idea if they make them for 3000GTs though. They do make the Variant 3 coilovers for 3Ks and I've heard they're among the best ride quality/handling compromise out there for coilovers.

91rtstealth · 07-07-2008, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealthee

Yes. Coilovers are fully adjustable. I can drop my car even more than it sits now. It has 32 dampening settings.

For every day driving it stays on the softest settings.

I have a very high tolerance so I am a bit skewed. I have no issues with the ride of driving my car on PA roads. The most uncofortable road I dealt with was a section of a NJ Interstate (cant remember which of the top of my head), where the expansion joints were over emphasized.

It royally sucked. But for comparison the first time I was ever on that road was in my TSi with stock suspension and I thought something was broke it rode so rough.

For best results find someone in your area with coilovers and have them take you for a ride,

how do you adjust them? they're not electronic are they? i guess my question is...is it relatively quick and easy to adjust the softness?...

07-06-2008, 07:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
91rtstealth Dru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Drives: 91 Stealth R/t Stock Trader Rating: (0)	suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... i just took my stealth on a road trip this weekend...I currently have the stock ecs suspension on it with intrax springs...i got the springs years ago to eliminate horrible wheel gap on my car, however, i'm getting older now, and the ride comfort is annoying me...especially since I live in PA, where the roads are terrible... i was thinking of getting coil overs for it..i'd return to stock, but I can't deal with the wheel gap.plus I know the ecs will take a crap sooner or later. ..i like the car with a lowered stance...i'm looking for some nice adjustable coil overs...i'm more concerned with ride comfort than handling..i don't ever plan on taking the car to a track or anything..it's a non turbo, so it's not exactly lightning fast...i basically use the car for local ripping around on back roads and the occasional long distance trip...so i'd like something that will keep descent handling but give me some better ride comfort..the intrax is brutal.... any suggestions..i don't know a whole lot about suspension...

07-06-2008, 07:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hubbell86 Verified Seller Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bentleyville Pa, Drives: 1992 Stealth R/T TT Trader Rating: (6)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... 24 isnt old but i cant really answer your questions but i can agree that the roads here suck ass. __________________ 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T TT (41,700 original miles!) Mods: 3sx TP, 3sx DP, Emanage Blue, 15gs installed, Running 3 psi (lol yay boost leak!) Walbro 255, 450cc injectors, Meth inj Coming soon. 1992 Dodge Stealth R/T NA Mods: 3sx DP, 3sx TP, and Ebay Intake

07-06-2008, 07:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
91rtstealth Dru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Drives: 91 Stealth R/t Stock Trader Rating: (0)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... yeah...it's true...i'm not old yet, but i'm starting to actually care about ride quality now..haha..it's brutal driving that thing through towns with cracked roads and man-hole covers and all that stuff...it's irritating...i went through Philly today and that was horrible..haha..

07-06-2008, 07:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (77)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... Dude I am almost 28 and I am far from old. As for your question. Ride comfort and coilovers dont go hand in hand. I love my coilovers and the ride is far from terrible. Others might not agree to this testament but its my opinion. Coilovers might be only marginally better in ride comfort because they are valved for the spring rate, etc. __________________ Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: my ass is really sore Kbizzle [11:25 P.M.]: this is most displeasing

07-06-2008, 08:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
MustGoFaster Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Minnesota Drives: An AEM car in -10F Trader Rating: (9)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... I haven't seen any coil overs with an emphasis on ride comfort. With my K sports, most concrete roads I end up feeling like a bobble head doll. I'm ok with the bigger bumps here and there, but the undulation on concrete roads really gets my neck on trips over an hour. __________________ ~Ryan 92 Stealth R/T TT- Not exactly done- 93 RT TT- Not much of a car anymore. "Failure is just a part of life - and specifically part of owning these cars - failure will sucker punch you in the gut, but you have to spit in it's face and kick it in the nuts - the essence of owning a 3/S." - lawdogg

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07-06-2008, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
91rtstealth Dru Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Drives: 91 Stealth R/t Stock Trader Rating: (0)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... really? I was told that coil overs were the way to go....my stock shocks with intrax springs is really rough....can't you manually adjust ride height and stiffness on some of them?

07-06-2008, 08:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stealthee Damage Control Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 1 hr south of Pitt Drives: 1994 Stealth Trader Rating: (77)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... Yes. Coilovers are fully adjustable. I can drop my car even more than it sits now. It has 32 dampening settings. For every day driving it stays on the softest settings. I have a very high tolerance so I am a bit skewed. I have no issues with the ride of driving my car on PA roads. The most uncofortable road I dealt with was a section of a NJ Interstate (cant remember which of the top of my head), where the expansion joints were over emphasized. It royally sucked. But for comparison the first time I was ever on that road was in my TSi with stock suspension and I thought something was broke it rode so rough. For best results find someone in your area with coilovers and have them take you for a ride,

07-06-2008, 08:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Highboosted king of ghetto Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Drives: '94 Stealth Turbo Trader Rating: (28)	Re: suspension questions..coil overs, ecs, etc... With coilovers, I'm not going to suggest a brand or spring rate because that all depends on your needs, budget, weight and distribution. But coilovers with custom rate springs will fit what you want. There are also ECS strut/spring combos that provide the ride you want, but will not provide the drop of Intrax springs, but do make a huge improvement in looks. Eibach is on the comfort end of the spectrum opposite Intrax, with the various Tein springs in between. __________________ pıdnʇs 'ɹǝʌo ǝɯ dılɟ Tech inspector: "What's that for?" Me: "It makes me win". Tech inspector: "How?" Me: "By confusing people who try and copy me".