The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok - Page 8 - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

green-lantern · 05-19-2008, 06:14 AM

I am going with the TD05's

this would be great to do at NG!

seta8967 · 05-25-2008, 12:50 PM

I'm going with the TD04 its a quicker spinning turbo. With both running the same HP the TD04 will spin up and be on top of the TD05 before the TD05 can fully spool up. If it was a TD04 against a high HP TD05 it would be a different story... Every shift means the TD04 will spool up faster and gain more and more. This is why some people prefer N/A because they don't have the disadvantage of the turbo lag or having to wait for it to spool up. personally a 500hp little turbo vs 500hp big turbo vs 500hp N/A. I think the NA would win follow by the little turbo... This is all my idea though and theory...

cbehnken · 05-25-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seta8967

I'm going with the TD04 its a quicker spinning turbo. With both running the same HP the TD04 will spin up and be on top of the TD05 before the TD05 can fully spool up. If it was a TD04 against a high HP TD05 it would be a different story... Every shift means the TD04 will spool up faster and gain more and more. This is why some people prefer N/A because they don't have the disadvantage of the turbo lag or having to wait for it to spool up. personally a 500hp little turbo vs 500hp big turbo vs 500hp N/A. I think the NA would win follow by the little turbo... This is all my idea though and theory...

Good enough points, but low displacement high horsepower NA engines are usually peaky and do not have a wide power band.

Most of the time a good turbo setup will have a very strong midrange compared to an NA setup.

The NAs have to run heads and cam to make the high horsepower than make them unfriendly at low and mid RPMs.

My_Car_Goes_Rar · 05-25-2008, 02:10 PM

I would just like to throw in that both of you make me really sad when I look at your wheels... they are TOO baller.

GL guys.

seta8967 · 05-25-2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbehnken

Good enough points, but low displacement high horsepower NA engines are usually peaky and do not have a wide power band.

Most of the time a good turbo setup will have a very strong midrange compared to an NA setup.

The NAs have to run heads and cam to make the high horsepower than make them unfriendly at low and mid RPMs.

All I can say is your obviously more experienced than I. You also make me very jealous with that color car and interior.

jba3 · 05-25-2008, 02:56 PM

In for results, and to enjoy the smack talk.

cbehnken · 05-25-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seta8967

All I can say is your obviously more experienced than I. You also make me very jealous with that color car and interior.

Don't be jealous, you make me jealous having a real 2nd gen

I don't know a ton, but from what I've seen really hot NA motors are lucky to have 2 or 3 thosand RPM power bands. OTOH a good turbo motor can have a nice 4 thousand RPM power band fairly easily.

Exceptions to this always...

helmvr4 · 05-25-2008, 08:26 PM

Tdo5 All The Way!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ondontii · 05-26-2008, 05:36 AM

Why do people think low boost threshold is going to make a difference at the track? We aren't having a "lug it from low rpms" competition.

This isn't a 5mph roll race, and if it was, a little 2 steppin would ruin that advantage too.

shadow334485 · 05-26-2008, 05:48 AM

I dont even know but I just enjoy the smack talk

View Poll Results: TD04 vs TD05
TD04 - oohnoo	137	51.70%
TD05 - tfw a-ok	128	48.30%
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05-19-2008, 06:14 AM	#71 (permalink)
green-lantern cyber bully Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: tennessee Drives: like an idiot Trader Rating: (14)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok I am going with the TD05's this would be great to do at NG! __________________

05-25-2008, 12:50 PM	#72 (permalink)
seta8967 selling 95 vr4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: station-minot AFB :( Drives: 1995 3000gt VR-4 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok I'm going with the TD04 its a quicker spinning turbo. With both running the same HP the TD04 will spin up and be on top of the TD05 before the TD05 can fully spool up. If it was a TD04 against a high HP TD05 it would be a different story... Every shift means the TD04 will spool up faster and gain more and more. This is why some people prefer N/A because they don't have the disadvantage of the turbo lag or having to wait for it to spool up. personally a 500hp little turbo vs 500hp big turbo vs 500hp N/A. I think the NA would win follow by the little turbo... This is all my idea though and theory...

05-25-2008, 02:56 PM	#76 (permalink)
jba3 Paid Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charles Town WV Drives: mitsu's stock up ^_^ Trader Rating: (15)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok In for results, and to enjoy the smack talk. __________________ If my posts have been helpful or informative, or even entertaining, rep is appreciated.

05-25-2008, 08:26 PM	#78 (permalink)
helmvr4 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Albuquerque Drives: 93 vr4,turbo mustang Trader Rating: (3)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok Tdo5 All The Way!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ dr stage 3 heads, steet cams ,cam gears ,evo 3's 660's street beast 20 lbs w meth a

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05-26-2008, 05:36 AM	#79 (permalink)
Ondontii SOHC you in the FACE Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle and SaltLake Trader Rating: (0)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok Why do people think low boost threshold is going to make a difference at the track? We aren't having a "lug it from low rpms" competition. This isn't a 5mph roll race, and if it was, a little 2 steppin would ruin that advantage too. __________________ Brent 1992 Duster -12.7@114 - 14psi boost -13.9@107.4 - 5psi - 6g72 3.13L "built" SOHC, Precision T67 P-trim, Tial 38mm open dump, 3" downpipe, 20x12x3" evo style intercooler, 7:1 compression, balanced, shot peened rods, heavily ported heads (+40% on flowbench), Ferrea Competition Plus +2 +1 stainless valves, Nielson Vintage 278 duration custom turbo cams, RPW Cam gears, Custom Ram Style short runner intake manifold, Walbro 255hp, 647# injectors, +0.096" Forged Venolias, Total Seal chrome gapless top rings, Fidandza Flywheel, Clutchnet 3 puck solid hub, OBX Helical LSD, Zeitronix wideband/EGT/Boost sensors, 100watt DevilsOwn Meth Kit. 1994 Spirit - 13.987@101.89 - 5psi- 6g72 SOHC, K27 Turbo Last edited by Ondontii : 05-26-2008 at 05:40 AM.*

05-26-2008, 05:48 AM	#80 (permalink)
shadow334485 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the doghouse Drives: 91 VR4 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: The stage is set - TD04 vs TD05 - oohnoo vs tfw a-ok I dont even know but I just enjoy the smack talk __________________ X2 coming this fall