Recall faulty ECU's for years 91-95 3000GT and Stealth

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by bouncer257

I thought there were people saying the ECUs caught on fire?

There are 2 base 3000GTs in a local junkyard that have fire damage to the front center console. Me thinks ECU.

bouncer257 - You live in my dream location. I can't wait to live in or near Destin or anywhere in the panhandle.

Anyway, sticking to the topic, if you could find out more about the fire damage on those 2 base 3000GTs, what year they were, etc... or any links stating anything about this please include the information here.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by ProwlerGT

bouncer257 - You live in my dream location. I can't wait to live in or near Destin or anywhere in the panhandle.

Anyway, sticking to the topic, if you could find out more about the fire damage on those 2 base 3000GTs, what year they were, etc... or any links stating anything about this please include the information here.

double post 14 hours apart?!

[perry]

That thread, Sputtering hesitation piece of crap is what led me to my solution.

ECU was less then a year old and under warrenty from rebuilder and had to be replaced twice since i've owned teh car...i got it in march 06

[StealthCRF]

if you know that your car is unsafe to drive, then YOU are liable for the risk that is subsequently imposed. If you are involved in an accidnent due to that safety issue (and somebody can prove it) then you are liable for whatever bodily injuries and collateral damage occur.

If I have a toaster in my apartment that is falling apart and has exposed wires, and I burn down the building and my neighbors die.... i am responsible.. not the toaster manufacturer.

[91vr4n00maxima]

Originally Posted by StealthCRF

if you know that your car is unsafe to drive, then YOU are liable for the risk that is subsequently imposed. If you are involved in an accidnent due to that safety issue (and somebody can prove it) then you are liable for whatever bodily injuries and collateral damage occur.

If I have a toaster in my apartment that is falling apart and has exposed wires, and I burn down the building and my neighbors die.... i am responsible.. not the toaster manufacturer.

the argument here is the owners manual doesnt reccomend opening up the ECU at a specified interval to inspect the caps. a damaged toaster is clearly visible.

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by TooFast4Radar

I totally agree. The TC may be a design issue of sorts since people have sealed the TC themselves and had it leak. Mine has had a very slow leak ever after I resealed it myself 4 years ago. I knew it was leaking long before the recall and just kept an eye on it. It was just one of those things I took along with owning the car. I can see a TC or seatbelts that fail causing a total loss of control of the vehicle or your body during an impact, but an ECU is starting to get a little rediculous.

It really isn't Mitsubishi's fault that they couldn't travel into the future to see what parts would start to fail 13 years after the warranty went out.

I find it really hard to believe that Mitsu didn't know what kind of shitty parts they bought. They are a multimillion dollar coporation with tons of R&D going on. For all we know they knew this would happen and hoped it would profit them in the long run either with people buying new cars, tvs, whatever .... and/or repairing said electronics with replacement boards from their stock which will eventually do the same thing. Sorry, I don't buy that they didn't know. Company's (especially the US government) give winning contracts to the lowest bidder all the time and yes it does mean shittier parts sometimes.

I for one am not insenuating for a moment that we all get NEW cars. Give me a break. I'd be happy if Mitsu would agree to replacing the caps with new ones, checking the resistors and replacing those, and/or running diagnostics on the board before returning it to the customer. Running an assembly line to produce all new ECU's would be a stretch I think and having them repair the mess they caused to begin with would probably save them more money in the long run depending on the number of recalls that would actually hit them back.

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by Mumbo_Jumbo

Wouldn't opening the ecu to replace the caps technically void the warranty (even if expired) and them exempt it from the proposed recall?

Probably so, but there are many who have never touched their ECU popping up on the forums every week.

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by StealthCRF

if you know that your car is unsafe to drive, then YOU are liable for the risk that is subsequently imposed. If you are involved in an accidnent due to that safety issue (and somebody can prove it) then you are liable for whatever bodily injuries and collateral damage occur.

If I have a toaster in my apartment that is falling apart and has exposed wires, and I burn down the building and my neighbors die.... i am responsible.. not the toaster manufacturer.

Thats 1 side of the argument. The other side is "that you don't know". Plenty of people don't know what is causing their cars to do all this unnecessary bullshit because Mitsu decided to give an electronic parts contract to a cheap bidder. Nobody thinks about their toaster being bad because %99.999999% of the time it doesn't cause any trouble, nor is it thought that it would because its a simple device that just works. If the toaster didn't have exposed wires and wasn't falling apart and still caught the building on fire it isn't your fault. Plenty of 3S owners are in this situation and to tell you the truth while all the forum's are a big help to them in fixing their problems the forums are also a hurt because many people who don't know what they are doing attempt to fix the issue and thus cause themselves and their cars more damage. I don't care what I'm told or what I hear I have had many vehicles of different makes and models and this is the first time I've heard of ECU's going bad so frequently in any particular vehicle. It is flawed design combined with flawed cheap ass parts. I suppose those that I've posted in this thread with ECU's that caught on fire should be blamed for that right? LOL - Because the main part that is supposed to never fail and keep the car going all the time died..... they are supposed to know this? Give me a break. Companies do not have the customer's best interest in mind no matter how much they pump it up. They just have their stockholder's interest in mind and how green they can line their pockets.

Please ..... someone dare tell me that having to replace an ECU 3 times in a couple years is NORMAL? Its bad engineered design combined with cheap ass parts. I'd even be willing to bet someone at Mitsu R&D brought this to the mgmt's attention and nothing was done about it before the cars were produced because "at the moment" it would've meant lower profits.

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by 91vr4n00maxima

the argument here is the owners manual doesnt reccomend opening up the ECU at a specified interval to inspect the caps. a damaged toaster is clearly visible.

yeap, what he said.

[Mumbo_Jumbo]

Originally Posted by ProwlerGT

Please ..... someone dare tell me that having to replace an ECU 3 times in a couple years is NORMAL? Its bad engineered design combined with cheap ass parts. I'd even be willing to bet someone at Mitsu R&D brought this to the mgmt's attention and nothing was done about it before the cars were produced because "at the moment" it would've meant lower profits.

You are neglecting the fact that there could be something else electrically overloading the ECU and damaging it. In fact, if I had to replace the ECU 2 or 3 times in 2 years, I would instantly rule it out as the problem. I would start looking for other gremlins.