Recall faulty ECU's for years 91-95 3000GT and Stealth

[Hammer]

Additional new info.

The techs at ECMtogo have told me that many 95-97 ECU's have recently
come in for leaking capacitor repairs. That is right the leaking capacitors
are not limited to only 1st Gen cars.

They also tell me that those that have repaired there 1st Gen ECU's need to revist this again as a recurring problem every 10-15 years.
Remember those in hot climes do not last as long as those in cooler climes.

So if your car or repair is over 10 years old we all need to start checking for
leaking capacitors. Or not your choice but remember

Repair cost is ~$250
Replacemant cost is ~ $2,000

And the ECS also has the same problem with leaky capacitors with about the
same 10-15 year cycle and if failed can also damage the ECU. So both should be fixed at the same time IMHO.

Repair cost for the ECS ~$250
Replacement cost ECS I do not know.

[flug06]

bump If this isent stickied ... I'de like to keep it current....

[ProwlerGT]

I'm still watching. Things have been difficult for me so 3S stuff has taken a back seat. I moved to Illlinois from Louisiana in January and things with the GF not working out. May be soon moving back to Louisiana. In any case I don't want this thread to start talking about GF drama. I just wanted to post saying that I still intend to create a web page for collecting a list of names and other various info etc... for trying to make this happen and/or at least trying to get some kind of action. Lots of others have posted that this will probably never see any action from big business, but who knows and again maybe we can at least get a TSB out there.

[ProwlerGT]

bumppp

[gtr35]

correct me if i'm wrong, but these capacitor leaks occur mostly, if not only, on 1st gen ECUs with RUBYCON brand capacitors. 2nd gen ECUs have NICHICON brand capacitors. has anyone seen a nichicon capacitor leak?

[Bad_VR4_Driver]

I'm sorry guys if i state something that has already been stated but due to the fact that i m on dial up right now and its late i would like to point out that i just recently had an ecu go out on my 92 VR4 it put a 3 inch black burn mark on my ecu cover ( which makes me think that it is possible for one of those things to catch on fire). also i got a hole in my front exhaust manifold, and i m thinkin it was from the faulty ecu. the reason being is that one of the front cylinders was getting an assload of fuel dumped to it just b4 the ecu actually went on to the next life. i have heard that cars running rich tend to increase exhaust temps which i m thinkin could have created a heat spot which led to fuel squirting out of the hole. that is how i noticed it in the first place is because i kept seeing fuel mist out of the exhaust hole. i m thinkin if the ecu would have quit at the right time after the manifold had heated up enough that could have caused a fire. of course i m not a genious on this sort of thing and would need someone to confirm all of this but if that idea proved to be a possible outcome then that along with stalling in traffic that makes for a dangerous part. i apologize for spellin/grammar but i m tired and i just want to keep this alive

[Lear70]

Subscribed. Lots of ECU problems, 2 direct known causes of cars not running properly.

Tried to visit the other page and there's no way to sign up.

[moffman93']

Originally Posted by Michael B.

Basically yes. The company weighs in the number of possible lawsuits and the amount it would cost to settle those lawsuits vs. the cost of the recall. They frankly won't spend a dime if it's not an issue that can lead to accidents or accidental death.

thats a good movie

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I would like to see a recall as well. I want to help!

But let me play the other side role (Mitsubishi exec for a sec)

Lets see you know that the ISC is only good for 50,000-100,000 miles right?
And when this part fails it can damage the ECU.
So you all want us to replace these ECU's for free when many of you
might be operating cars with bad or about to fail ISC's. Put a brand new
ECU into a car with a shorted ISC and you will blow out the new ECU.
And this ISC is a recuring maintainence nightmare. To be really sure
to protect your ECU you would have to replace it every 45,000 miles or so.
And 2 of these ISC's cost the same as 1 ECU. So do you chance it or not?

Ok if you are not aware of this ticking time bomb in your car then maybe
we can hold Mitsubishi liable for the repair to the ECU for failure to notify
owners of a recuring must replace item the ISC.
But it would be a court battle
there is no way Mitsubishi would cave in on this out of good will toward
owners of cars they no longer make. And it sounds like they want out of the
ECU support bussiness as well.

Now I agree that these ECU's have other problems beside the ISC.
And the recall is to fix these other issues mostly.
But the ISC issue alone is enough to get Mitsubishi off the hook
or at least their lawyers will focus on that aspect of it to our detriment.
Not sure we can win this even if we throw a ton of money at it in a court
case.

Good info. Well I realize it would be a hard long shot n all that, but I wouldn't go to court unless someone would do it on contingency and/or pro bono and/or maybe a law student would take it on for personal notoriety and publicity reasons. Those are my hopes because just like most people on this forum I don't have JACK to shell out to no one. I do have the power of free speech and some computer knowledge though and there is a form on the NHTSA web site to get things started. In particular the NHTSA thing is what I would like to see happen first and see where it goes if anywhere.

How many other cars do you know of that have to replace the ISC/IAC on a recurring 50k - 100k basis? Personally I had NEVER NEVER NEVER even heard of an IAC until I got involved with this platform. I have owned and driven many used and OLD high mileage vehicles with EFI in them and I've not once had to replace an IAC in any of them. I'm more in tune with the thought that the ECU screws up the IAC to begin with. The point about Mitsu not alerting customers at least in a TSB for the IAC replacement/maint info is a good one and to me is OUT OF THE ORDINARY based on my experience with all cars in general. My Dad drove a 1999 Nissan Maxima over 200k and never had to deal with an IAC and I've had at least 3 other cars over 100k that never had to have that replaced either nor was there cause for it.

You've got me worried now with this 95-97 capacitor stuff. Mine is a 95 and I'm doing all this work to it to get it back on the road and the last damn thing I want to deal with is that. I have pulled my ECU and it looks clean, but again I know that doesn't mean a lot due to the random unstable nature of these things. I swear ya'll that it certainly seems to me as if Mitsu had an END OF LIFE for these cars IN MIND on PURPOSE when they built them figuring that no community like 3SI would ever surface and that these cars would've been JUNKED leaving people to hopefully buy MORE of their vehicles later on. It is just too rediculous what the 3SI community and those outside of it go through with all this stuff meanwhile spending 100's or 1000's of dollars at dealer's or other tech shop's trying to fix problems in their car all the while they are not knowing its the ECU or ACTING like its not the ECU to rip people off. Maybe there's a bit of Fox Mulder in me, but from what I have seen I agree with you that corporations are not here to "give a care" about anyone but their shareholders and those nice lil green pieces of paper.

[ProwlerGT]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Additional new info.

The techs at ECMtogo have told me that many 95-97 ECU's have recently
come in for leaking capacitor repairs. That is right the leaking capacitors
are not limited to only 1st Gen cars.

They also tell me that those that have repaired there 1st Gen ECU's need to revist this again as a recurring problem every 10-15 years.
Remember those in hot climes do not last as long as those in cooler climes.

So if your car or repair is over 10 years old we all need to start checking for
leaking capacitors. Or not your choice but remember

Repair cost is ~$250
Replacemant cost is ~ $2,000

And the ECS also has the same problem with leaky capacitors with about the
same 10-15 year cycle and if failed can also damage the ECU. So both should be fixed at the same time IMHO.

Repair cost for the ECS ~$250
Replacement cost ECS I do not know.

What about TCM's or rather TCU's (whatever they are called for our cars)?