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Old 05-15-2008, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 500whp Talon and I'm considering buying a stealth TT.
I'd like to run 9s @ 145mph+

I'm wondering what are the weak links in the Stealth TT/3000gt and what year is the best?
I have done a bit of reading and the 2nd gen motor has a forged crank.
I saw some mentions of inadequate oiling and a lot of spun bearings.

Given it is perfectly tuned How much horsepower can a stock 1st gen block handle ? stock 2nd gen?
What is the highest HP possible on a built engine. What fails in higher HP engines ?

What about the transmission, transfer case, axles etc...
I prefer to have answer based on actual experience.

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Old 05-15-2008, 12:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a 500whp Talon and I'm considering buying a stealth TT.
I'd like to run 9s @ 145mph+

I'm wondering what are the weak links in the Stealth TT/3000gt and what year is the best?
I have done a bit of reading and the 2nd gen motor has a forged crank.
I saw some mentions of inadequate oiling and a lot of spun bearings.

Given it is perfectly tuned How much horsepower can a stock 1st gen block handle ? stock 2nd gen?
What is the highest HP possible on a built engine. What fails in higher HP engines ?

What about the transmission, transfer case, axles etc...
I prefer to have answer based on actual experience.

Thanks !
i think the concensus is (correct me if i'm wrong) is about 600+ whp on a stock 2nd gen drivetrain (forged 4 bolt/ bulletproof six speed) and ~500 on a first gen. if you look at one of the top threads, a dude just put over 1200 to the ground with a built stroker.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Go search for an read all of the posts from snakeskinner. That will answer 99% of your questions.
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You joined today and started two identical threads in different sections. Thought new members weren't allowed to start new threads? But sersously do some searching and you can find all your answers.
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You joined today and started two identical threads in different sections. Thought new members weren't allowed to start new threads? But sersously do some searching and you can find all your answers.
Searching takes a lot of time and sometimes it's quicker to just ask. I did search and the results I got were unconclusive.

The answers I received above are more constructive.
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Searching takes a lot of time and sometimes it's quicker to just ask. I did search and the results I got were unconclusive.
The reason that you got inconclusive results was because there is no conclusive answer to the question. Some people have had problems just putting down 400 awhp while others have put down 600 awhp. It really depends a lot on the car and the condition that everything is in.

When you are searching you'll also find threads about different things that people have tried to get the power which can help greatly when deciding what you want to go with.
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The reason that you got inconclusive results was because there is no conclusive answer to the question. Some people have had problems just putting down 400 awhp while others have put down 600 awhp. It really depends a lot on the car and the condition that everything is in.

When you are searching you'll also find threads about different things that people have tried to get the power which can help greatly when deciding what you want to go with.

The thing is, I know exactly what is needed to make "X" amount power.
I've been modding cars for almost 10 years now.

What I don't know is the durability of that car. What fails at what amount of power. I know the results will differ from one to another.
Some failures might be caused by poor tuning or an pre-existing condition.

To run 9 @ 140mph+ I believe I need to make 700awhp minimum. That means I have to have a built engine I suppose. I know the stock 4G63T can take around 600awhp for a while when tuned perfectly. I was hoping maybe the stock 6G72 could take 700awhp.

I am reading about snakeskinner and he's breaking oil pump gears ?
Axles ?
I'm still reading about that...

Maybe someone could list the failure points of these cars so I know what I'm getting into.
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The thing is, I know exactly what is needed to make "X" amount power.
I've been modding cars for almost 10 years now.

What I don't know is the durability of that car. What fails at what amount of power. I know the results will differ from one to another.
Some failures might be caused by poor tuning or an pre-existing condition.

To run 9 @ 140mph+ I believe I need to make 700awhp minimum. That means I have to have a built engine I suppose. I know the stock 4G63T can take around 600awhp for a while when tuned perfectly. I was hoping maybe the stock 6G72 could take 700awhp.

I am reading about snakeskinner and he's breaking oil pump gears ?
Axles ?
I'm still reading about that...

Maybe someone could list the failure points of these cars so I know what I'm getting into.
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Failure points are 1st gen transfer cases of which there are t-case braces available. 2nd gen transfer cases are stronger and made out of cast iron. But strengthening those the weak link is trasnfered to the tranny of which you can make stronger by welding in a plate inside the bellhousing. After that it seems to be the axles but it all depends on alot of factors such as the suspension, tires/drag radials/air pressure andmost important how you launch the car.

Any big hp motor is going to need stronger internals if you want it to last. Slap on some big turbo's and the sky is the limit.

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