I have to rebuild....

[J-Groove]

Iceman:

Haha, dude I'm just a little tired, a little wired, and I may be talkign out of my ass because my car just broke. Slap away haha

As far as the blocks, I thought there was some difference to them as with the oil squirters and what not, maybe different tollerences fpr the change in compression ratios, I was wrong and you have taught me somthing new.

And for "block" I am refering to the Short Block as my heads are clean and I thankfully did not break them today.

I still need to do a lot of researching on the engine build I will soon be facing. All my current research has been on what I need to modify to turn my N/A to TT and make it reliable.

hanks for knocking some sense into me, if I do go cheap I WILL hate my self later. Heck I should really just look at this as a forced upgrade.

Bye bye more money though.

I need some sleep, the build was goign so smooth before this happened too.

-John

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Presto97sl:

I hate to break it to you, but there are at least 2 VR4s and 3 R/T TT in Waco, just only one other is a member. And unfortunetly there are a couple of ragged out N/As that have seen better days. The worst I saw was a '99 black SL, the car looked like it had never been washed a day in its life

If you do come to Baylor, next Spring maybe? I love this school, I hate the price, and I hate the higher ups you never see. But the student body and your proffessors and deans are great. Plus the I really enjoy the small class sizes.

[iceman_ii]

true about the oil squirters - but when you change to forged pistons, you can block those off to get better pressure to the top end....

[J-Groove]

Wait, wait, I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=343051

My only hope is that it is still available. Would be a nice to pick up a long block for that price.

Also I just priced out forged internalls, now I don't want to go cheap, but I do have to go with what I can afford right now. haha

-John

[Gene Crumpler]

John, you know me and how much crap I have gone through with both of my 3S's. You need to make a decision as to what you want to do with this car now and in the future. Don't think that by throwing more money at it that you will "make" it reliable. I personally think you should keep it as cheap as possible (used NA shortblock, and rebuild). I don't think you will see any problems going that way, and you won't get in over you head money or time-wise.

Good luck with everything and it sucks you've got to go through all this trouble after planning it out as well as you did.

laters,

[J-Groove]

Hey Gene,

that is true. the truth for right now is I'm going TT. I've done to much research and planned for it to much to just cut my ties and go back to rebuild just to N/A. That is why, if I have to do this I think going with a TT compression would be the best path as it will be a more reliable engine to boost compared to the 10:1 I was building.

Plus the long block I from the thread posted above, if available, would be a great deal, a little more than what I need, but it is also an item I can pick up.

I need to turn off this computer and get some sleep.

-John

[AudibleSilence]

8:1 FTW JohnBoy Have fun building it up, at least you're not a whining bitch about it like most owners that have to rebuild. Me personally I couldn't be bothered. I just bought an engine and had it dropped in.

[Gene Crumpler]

I still wanted you to go TT, just stick with 10:1 heads and NA block. Either way, good luck and if you need anything give me a holler.

Originally Posted by J-Groove

Hey Gene,

that is true. the truth for right now is I'm going TT. I've done to much research and planned for it to much to just cut my ties and go back to rebuild just to N/A. That is why, if I have to do this I think going with a TT compression would be the best path as it will be a more reliable engine to boost compared to the 10:1 I was building.

Plus the long block I from the thread posted above, if available, would be a great deal, a little more than what I need, but it is also an item I can pick up.

I need to turn off this computer and get some sleep.

-John

[Presto97sl]

Originally Posted by J-Groove
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Presto97sl:[/b]

I hate to break it to you, but there are at least 2 VR4s and 3 R/T TT in Waco, just only one other is a member. And unfortunetly there are a couple of ragged out N/As that have seen better days. The worst I saw was a '99 black SL, the car looked like it had never been washed a day in its life

If you do come to Baylor, next Spring maybe? I love this school, I hate the price, and I hate the higher ups you never see. But the student body and your proffessors and deans are great. Plus the I really enjoy the small class sizes.

Ya hopefully spring or fall. When do u graduate it would be awsome if i knew someone there

[rush6432]

Originally Posted by J-Groove

I think going with a TT compression would be the best path as it will be a more reliable engine to boost compared to the 10:1 I was building.

Wrong the 10:1 will be just as reliable and more off boost power. its all in the tuning. if your too scared to deal with the 10:1 and affraid of blowing somthing then i dont know if you should be even doing a tt conv/swap at all. not trying to be a dick but if you can tune 10:1, then tuning on 8:1 is a joke, you have way more room for error than you do on a 10:1. i ran the single t67 for a while and beat on it quite a bit and it was reliable. prior to that i had 13ts that i DAILY DROVE in houston in stop and go traffic with a 6 puck clutch and it was still reliable as the car was when it was n/a. Keep in mind this was all 10:1 compression. also before 13ts i was daily driving with the 9bs, ALL of my turbo setups were on the stock n/a radiator too. the car will be reliable if you DONT cut corners. 10:1 can be just as reliable as the 8:1 motor. im not trying to push 10:1 here but take a step back and look at the pros and cons of each. 10:1 cant run TONS of boost on pump gas, but will spool quicker and can make slightly more power at low boost levels than a tt at ALMOST double the boost with same turbos. if you want to run tons of boost and throw big turbos on and make tons of power id say go 8:1. If you just want more passing power or 40-50 more hp go 10:1 and save yourself some $$$. If you really want to be nuts take 10;1 and throw big turbos on and see what you can do. i can attest to the stock internals being stout, the single turbo setup i ran was pushing 12 psi on pump gas and took it like a champ. take advice from the few that have gone every route, we know what we're talking about and its gonna save you money in the long run. if you want im willing to probably just give you a non turbo short block. its bare, no pistons,crank or rods. i have the gurdle at my house and the block at adams (15-20 min drive from my house) if your willing to drive down here to austin, id give you the block.

[RussianVR-4]

Originally Posted by virtualarson

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wtf is your problem. why the fuck would you post your worthless POS 2 cents if you got nothing usefull to add?