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Old 04-17-2008, 03:46 AM   #81 (permalink)
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They aren't claiming that the extra power is coming from burning the H2 directly. They say that it increases the efficiency of burning the gasoline.
Exactly
Do you guys understand how this one works without water ?
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Old 04-17-2008, 03:55 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Keep in mind that even 16L/min is still EXTREMELY minuscule in comparison to the volume of air already entering your engine.
Just wondering where you are going to get 6-8 times the energy? Do you plan on storing 6-8 extra batteries in your trunk?

As far as the ammonia question. I'm pretty sure the H2 output would be similar to the NaOH and KOH, since NH3 dissociates to NH4+OH when mixed with water. Plus commercially available ammonia is already very dilute. I would also suggest against it because ammonium hydroxide is a volatile compound and will release corrosive ammonia into your engine.
Okay ammonia is out lol
I plan on having 2 batteries one to start the car/run accessories, and one to power the hho generator. Running at 60amps I would probably need a more powerful alternator.
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Old 04-17-2008, 08:58 AM   #83 (permalink)
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That isn't an H2 generator. That is a bunch of mumbo jumbo about ionizing the fuel and then subjecting it to an electical field that supposedly creates better atomization and a better burn. Seems to me that their pictures are for throttle body injection sytems and not direct inject as you have in diesels or port injection in modern gasoline engines. I am always suspicious of write ups that don't get to the point and try to bury you in charts and graphs.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:02 AM   #84 (permalink)
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PS if it really does create H2, then it is doing it by cracking the gasoline. That technique is what fuel cells use but with natural gas vs gasoline.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:45 AM   #85 (permalink)
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haha yeh i laughed when i saw it but i would still consider it racist. that's not to say that comedians don't say racist stuff all the time. but put it this way, i wouldn't tell the joke of how black people just loooooooooove fried chicken to the next random black guy you start talking to.
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Okay ammonia is out lol
I plan on having 2 batteries one to start the car/run accessories, and one to power the hho generator. Running at 60amps I would probably need a more powerful alternator.
Like I stated earlier, using a source with higher amp capabilities will do absolutely nothing to H2 output if your voltage and resistance stay the same. Just because you are running off a source capable of 60amps does not mean that will be the current going through the water. Current is dependent on voltage and resistance. Your voltage is only going to be 12-15v regardless of the amp rating of the battery and alternator.
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I just acedently saw this topic, but id like to give prop to DANTHEVR4MAN for not letting everyones negativity hald him back.. as for all the haters who have posted, i really don't understand why your flaming so much, its not like hes forcing you (or anyone else) to do anything..


for the flamers: did you parents never teach you "if you don't have something good/nice to say don't say anything?"

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I just acedently saw this topic, but id like to give prop to DANTHEVR4MAN for not letting everyones negativity hald him back.. as for all the haters who have posted, i really don't understand why your flaming so much, its not like hes forcing you (or anyone else) to do anything..
and a lot of the comments people have made trying to prove how this can't possibly work are complete bs, when ive got some more free time, im going to poke holes in everyone shit.

for the flamers: did you parents never teach you "if you don't have something good/nice to say don't say anything?"

No. My parents never told me that.

They did tell me not to poke holes in other people's shit though. That's a good way to get the hepatitis or pink eye. If nothing else, a really bad case of the poop-finger could be a direct result of the aforementioned shit poking.
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as for all the haters who have posted, i really don't understand why your flaming so much, its not like hes forcing you (or anyone else) to do anything..
for the flamers: did you parents never teach you "if you don't have something good/nice to say don't say anything?"
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Wouldn't time be better spent scavenging waste heat from the engine (radiator cooling/exhaust). Maybe a Stirling engine from the heat or boundary layer turbine run from the steam generated by the exhaust? Considering - on a good day your car approaches 30% efficiency.. Guess where most of the 70% waste goes?

Something that could actually increase the efficiency of a car more than 1%.

(bmw is working on this)

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