Dragging SPEC II, not sure why - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

Blue94VR4 · 06-16-2008, 08:49 AM

Hi,

I recently installed new SPEC 2 clutch and now I have a hard time getting into the 1st gear. Problem only exists with engine running and it looks like clutch not fully disengaging problem. Car wants to move forward a bit when I am trying to shift into the first. Here is what I did so far.

Bled the system, replaced master/slave and rubber line, adjusted the pedal. Problem still there.

I thing I did not do (it was very stupid of me) was to replace or resurface flywheel during the clutch swap. My friend said that it looked ok and it had only 20K on it so I though I would be ok. Can a bad (eneven) flywheel cause clutch disengagement issues?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks

DarkHelmet · 06-16-2008, 09:55 AM

could be the clutch. I've seen alot of pos spec stage 2's over the years. I had one eject the springs and lock agaunst the flywheel with only 5k on it, I had a customer car that had the PP collapse. bottom line, they suck

Blue94VR4 · 06-16-2008, 12:59 PM

In my case it gets worse after I drive for a while, when clutch gets warm.

defgh1 · 06-16-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue94VR4

In my case it gets worse after I drive for a while, when clutch gets warm.

If you verified that the clutch slave cylider is always fully depressing the release fork then you have a problem inside the bellhousing.

Doug H

Blue94VR4 · 06-16-2008, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defgh1

If you verified that the clutch slave cylider is always fully depressing the release fork then you have a problem inside the bellhousing.

Doug H

With engine off - yes. With engine on, I am not sure how to reach it. So much stuff in the way.

donniekak · 06-16-2008, 03:05 PM

When you barely press the clutch just before the point of disengagement with the engine running do you feel any throbbing? I to had a spec 2 lose some spring, and another that lasted a long time. I think the disks are easily warped on install. The one that was installed with a tranny jack didn't last. The one i used a hoist to install lasted.

Blue94VR4 · 06-16-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donniekak

When you barely press the clutch just before the point of disengagement with the engine running do you feel any throbbing? I to had a spec 2 lose some spring, and another that lasted a long time. I think the disks are easily warped on install. The one that was installed with a tranny jack didn't last. The one i used a hoist to install lasted.

Can you explain the hoist installation? How did you do it? Was it 1 man job?

Thanks,

donniekak · 06-16-2008, 05:44 PM

Yeah, it's a one man method. Put the car up on jackstands as high as they go. Install the clutch. Put the tranny on a small cart, and wheel it under the engine bay. Then you thread 2 bolts into where the shift linkage bolts up, use that as the hoist point. Hoist away. With a tranny jack it took me forever to line up the shaft and spin the tranny on, that hump is a bitch. With a hoist it took less than 5 minutes to line up the splines and slide the tranny on.

Blue94VR4 · 06-17-2008, 10:34 AM

I tried adjusting clutch pedal and it did not do a thing. I adjusted it from the extreme out to the middle position with no change in how gears engage. I still have hard time getting into 1st and it gets worse after driving around for a while.

Some times when I cruise to a stop in 1st with clutch pushed in, the clutch does not want to disengage and the car pull forward even at idle and I hear weird scraping noise from the clutch area. This does not happen often though, maybe once every 1-2 days of driving.

Gramdollar · 06-17-2008, 02:23 PM

just to make sure. are you sure you adjusted the clutch pedal correctly? like didn't do it the opposite way

06-16-2008, 08:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Blue94VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (19)	Dragging SPEC II, not sure why Hi, I recently installed new SPEC 2 clutch and now I have a hard time getting into the 1st gear. Problem only exists with engine running and it looks like clutch not fully disengaging problem. Car wants to move forward a bit when I am trying to shift into the first. Here is what I did so far. Bled the system, replaced master/slave and rubber line, adjusted the pedal. Problem still there. I thing I did not do (it was very stupid of me) was to replace or resurface flywheel during the clutch swap. My friend said that it looked ok and it had only 20K on it so I though I would be ok. Can a bad (eneven) flywheel cause clutch disengagement issues? Any other suggestions? Thanks __________________ 94 3000GT VR4 (upgraded) "Your 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is one of 1650. There are 57 other cars that were made with both the same interior and exterior color. Exactly Identical - 8" For sale: 1. Front strut bar 2. used A/C belt (10K on the belt) 3. Stock front and rear sway bars. 4. 3SX dual O2 simulator 5. Used 2'' couplers/reducers/hump hoses 6. SPEC II+ clutch

06-16-2008, 09:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
DarkHelmet Ask me about Getrag's! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Space Ball City Drives: Space ball one Trader Rating: (11)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why could be the clutch. I've seen alot of pos spec stage 2's over the years. I had one eject the springs and lock agaunst the flywheel with only 5k on it, I had a customer car that had the PP collapse. bottom line, they suck

06-16-2008, 12:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
Blue94VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (19)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why In my case it gets worse after I drive for a while, when clutch gets warm.

06-16-2008, 03:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
donniekak Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: surprise az Drives: 92rt/tt Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why When you barely press the clutch just before the point of disengagement with the engine running do you feel any throbbing? I to had a spec 2 lose some spring, and another that lasted a long time. I think the disks are easily warped on install. The one that was installed with a tranny jack didn't last. The one i used a hoist to install lasted.

06-16-2008, 05:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
donniekak Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: surprise az Drives: 92rt/tt Trader Rating: (2)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why Yeah, it's a one man method. Put the car up on jackstands as high as they go. Install the clutch. Put the tranny on a small cart, and wheel it under the engine bay. Then you thread 2 bolts into where the shift linkage bolts up, use that as the hoist point. Hoist away. With a tranny jack it took me forever to line up the shaft and spin the tranny on, that hump is a bitch. With a hoist it took less than 5 minutes to line up the splines and slide the tranny on.

Sponsored Links
3000GT/Stealth International Message Center Advertisement

06-17-2008, 10:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blue94VR4 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Drives: 94 VR4 Trader Rating: (19)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why I tried adjusting clutch pedal and it did not do a thing. I adjusted it from the extreme out to the middle position with no change in how gears engage. I still have hard time getting into 1st and it gets worse after driving around for a while. Some times when I cruise to a stop in 1st with clutch pushed in, the clutch does not want to disengage and the car pull forward even at idle and I hear weird scraping noise from the clutch area. This does not happen often though, maybe once every 1-2 days of driving.

06-17-2008, 02:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gramdollar what would dave thomas do Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Blairsville, PA Drives: 93 pearl white vr-4 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Dragging SPEC II, not sure why just to make sure. are you sure you adjusted the clutch pedal correctly? like didn't do it the opposite way