Car and Driver says M3 > GT-R & 911 Turbo

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Originally Posted by cbehnken

what difference does it make? If it weighs 1 more pound than a vette its a piece of shit, right?

Thats what some will say, I won't be one of them.

At the end of the day there is theory and practice, anything can be fast, thats front engine, mid engine, rear engine, FWD, RWD, AWD, 4 cylinders, 6 cylinders, 8 cylinders, 10 cylinders, 12 cylinders, 16 cyliners, no cylinders (rotary), V design, flat design, box, W, 2 valves per cylinder, 4 valves per cylinder, 5 valves per cylinder, push rod, SOHC, DOHC, naturally aspirated, supercharged, turbocharged, 1.1 litres all the way to 8.x litres, petrol and diesel, pretty much whatever you want with any mixing and matching of setups.

All that counts in the end is how it performs. Point A to B and thats what seperates cars all the other stuff is preference and I can't argue anyones preference any more than they can tell me what I like. My preference on a street car is towards AWD and 400+ hp with enough low end to keep me sane (not having to floor it to go anywhere). So atleast to me I can't argue with the GTR as its one up on everything I like about the 3s except for looks. The 3s is the Jack of all trades, the GTR may just be the Queen or King of all trades being that much better in stock form.

Not the best at everything but good to exceptional everything, and thats not how I feel thats flat out how the thing performs by all accounts no matter who is driving the thing in a straight line, around turns, and stopping.

Vette can't argue with it, simple yet efficient, they could have done alot of things to make it more complex and even faster while costing a lot more but who wants that? Thats the beauty of the vette to me atleast, simple yet efficient with 2 valves per cylinder, pushrod, FE, RWD, and easy affordability and ability to work on if you want more. That simple vette is now outperforming those 5 valve per cylinder, ME, RWD counterparts that still cost 3-6 times as much.

M3 I like but I am still a benz person. I would take a E63 over the M but thats probably just me. The M handles better but I am not getting either car for handling, more so luxury with enough go to where merging is not a problem and some young kid in his EVO or whatever has to really be doing something to keep up.