Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

306GTO · 05-15-2008, 09:48 PM

Neither of these belong to me (both my VR-4's are 5-speeds), but here are pics of the bellhousings of two 6-speed transmissions I've been working on. One has the beef-up plate from PO Machine, the other has the brace from Pampena mototrsports. Pics were taken yesterday, since that was my first and only opportunity to get pics of them both side by side before the one with the brace started going back together.

Devilmightcry · 05-15-2008, 10:42 PM

nice pictures. PO Machine has alot of welding going on on the sides.

helmvr4 · 05-16-2008, 10:36 AM

both the tranny's are 6 speeds, so do 5 spds need this type of mod to run 600 whp without cracking

DCIV · 05-16-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by helmvr4

both the tranny's are 6 speeds, so do 5 spds need this type of mod to run 600 whp with cracking

The first problem with the 5 speeds is the TC, once you have that taken care of then yes it wouldnt be a bad idea.

Coop

helmvr4 · 05-16-2008, 10:43 AM

even the 25 spline tc's i thought they were pretty stout but i guess how u launch takes a toll on em, what is the most common fix for the 5 spd to make em beefier?

oohnoo · 05-16-2008, 10:49 AM

mmmmm looks like you guys have the same garbage can. So who's are they actually?

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MustGoFaster · 05-16-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 306GTO

Neither of these belong to me (both my VR-4's are 5-speeds), but here are pics of the bellhousings of two 6-speed transmissions I've been working on.

jandoaudio · 05-16-2008, 10:57 AM

When you think about the loads imparted on the case it seems a little overkill to have the whole plate installed. Good thinking on Rays part, simple, effective, lower heat

cbehnken · 05-16-2008, 11:10 AM

the thing I like about the PO machine plate is that it ties into the center diff bearing.

Whether this will actually make a difference or not it does seem like a good idea.

DCIV · 05-16-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by helmvr4

even the 25 spline tc's i thought they were pretty stout but i guess how u launch takes a toll on em, what is the most common fix for the 5 spd to make em beefier?

thats the output shaft, and at that much HP its a good idea to upgrade that too. but the TC for the 18 and 25 spline are pretty much the same, a.k.a both cast alum. Pretty much your only option is to get an SStcase.

Coop

05-15-2008, 09:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
306GTO It's all stock. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Washington Drives: a de-badged sleeper Trader Rating: (5)	Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace Neither of these belong to me (both my VR-4's are 5-speeds), but here are pics of the bellhousings of two 6-speed transmissions I've been working on. One has the beef-up plate from PO Machine, the other has the brace from Pampena mototrsports. Pics were taken yesterday, since that was my first and only opportunity to get pics of them both side by side before the one with the brace started going back together. __________________ Handing out reality checks to "500HP Hondas" for 8 years and counting. '92 Sandstone Grey 3000GT VR-4. K&N filter, Spec 5 clutch, NGK plugs/wires, Custom EBC, Greddy E-manage Ultimate, built 6G74 engine (in progress), Turbonetics ceramic ball-bearing T-70, custom intake/exhaust/intercooler piping (still plumbing those), 24"x12" FMIC, Brembo rotors, Stillen pads, E-bay Ground kit, 2nd gen shifter, HKS SSQV, Denso 660's, twin Walbro fuel pumps, GTO center garnish, eK2 EGR block-off plates, Prosport gauges: [oil press, fuel press, manifold press, oil temp, water temp, volts], Toni's interior LED conversion (still installing), forgot the rest. '91 Firestorm Red 3000GT VR-4. K&N filter, eK2 poly engine mounts, Seattle Short Shifter, custom MBC, Spec 3+ clutch, Forged crankshaft, Tein S-Tech springs (front only), DNP Y-pipe, TD04H-13T's (with 13T wastegates), amber taillights, gutted pre-kitties, eK2 EGR block-off plates, Prosport gauges: [oil press, manifold press, fuel press, water temp], Megan Racing downpipe, Borla exhaust, NGK plugs, MSD wires, Greddy type-S BOV, Greddy E-manage Ultimate, RC 550 injectors, Denso "Supra" fuel pump, MSD DIS-4, Brembo rotors, Stillen pads, forgot the rest. '90 Fiji Blue 300ZX TT. Stillen front bumper/nose-panel/wing/control arms/sway bars, Greddy intake/exhaust/clutch/fuel injectors, Super Autobachs strut bars, Brembo brakes, Energy Suspension bushings, Tokico shocks, JWT ECU chip, Bomex rear bumper, Nismo gound kit, NGK plugs, IPS short shifter, Custom interior, forgot the rest. '92 Black MR2. Wife's car. K&N filter on a custom cold-air intake, some interior stuff.

05-15-2008, 10:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Devilmightcry The dark shall be with us Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MO Drives: 93' VR4 Trader Rating: (12)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace nice pictures. PO Machine has alot of welding going on on the sides. __________________

05-16-2008, 10:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
helmvr4 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Albuquerque Drives: 93 vr4,turbo mustang Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace both the tranny's are 6 speeds, so do 5 spds need this type of mod to run 600 whp without cracking __________________ dr stage 3 heads, steet cams ,cam gears ,evo 3's 660's street beast 20 lbs w meth a

05-16-2008, 10:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
helmvr4 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Albuquerque Drives: 93 vr4,turbo mustang Trader Rating: (3)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace even the 25 spline tc's i thought they were pretty stout but i guess how u launch takes a toll on em, what is the most common fix for the 5 spd to make em beefier?

05-16-2008, 10:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
oohnoo Verified Seller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: LI,NY Trader Rating: (156)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace mmmmm looks like you guys have the same garbage can. So who's are they actually? Bellhousing reinforcement PICS! __________________ ----------------[2007 Ride of the Year *"Stroke" her I did.* Retired - TD04 WRX19t's = 513awhp @ 18psi on PUMP

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05-16-2008, 10:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
jandoaudio Staying in the Family Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bozeman, Montana Drives: 95 RT/TT Trader Rating: (13)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace When you think about the loads imparted on the case it seems a little overkill to have the whole plate installed. Good thinking on Rays part, simple, effective, lower heat __________________ 92 VR4 Blacked out with a 98 conversion dr900's Fully forged 3.1L Stage 3 Heads 98 Jeep TJ 37's Locked with all the toys Cheap, Fast, Reliable.... You can only have two

05-16-2008, 11:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
cbehnken Forest Gump Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cape Girardeau Mo Drives: 1992 Stealth TT Trader Rating: (45)	Re: Bellhousing beef-up plate vs bellhousing brace the thing I like about the PO machine plate is that it ties into the center diff bearing. Whether this will actually make a difference or not it does seem like a good idea. __________________ Power: DSM 13G/DR650 Combo, EVO 560cc injectors, SAFC I, K&N, Ebay Downpipe, ATR Dual Catback, no cats, DN Y-Pipe, HKS SSQV, HKS EVC 5 at 14.5PSI, Walbro 255 with AN Bulkhead 8.07 @ 85.55 1/8th mile 1.84 60FT Suspension: KYB GR-2 - Tein S-Techs, Crossdrilled/slotted rotors, AWS Delete Drivetrain: RPS Street Max, M.W. 300m O/S, Seattle F&R Poly Mounts Etc: Roller Bearing Short Shifter Smokinvr-4 Corner box, 10" Rockford Fosgate Punch sub, Eclipse Headunit Leatherseats.com Charcoal/Dove Grey Interior, 99 front end/lights/wing/sideskirts/doorcaps Maintenance New VSS, all 60K stuff, new 1st,2nd, 3rd syncro, trans seals, oil pump, rod and main bearings. Mobile 1 10w40, Redline MTL in trans, 85w90 Coastal GL5 in transfer case and rear