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Old 05-02-2008, 02:49 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Default Re: Base GT-R breaks 7:30 on the ring.

Goddamn this car is quick! And the V-Spec looks even quicker. Hmmmmm..... might not be as easy as I hoped to beat one on a roadcourse with a modded VR4.

BTW, the appeal of the 'ring is that it replicates road conditions on regular roads (i.e. it's not an ultra smooth race track) which is why manufacturers love using it as a test bed. It gives an indication of how fast the car can be in the real world (not that any sane person should attempt pushing that hard on public streets).


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Probably still not as good as the GT-R does it. Keep in mind, the GT-R might be AWD, but it's also RWD. The only time the front wheels kick in, is when it needs them to. The Evo doesn't have nearly as advanced an AWD system as the GT-R.
The Evo's S-AWC (Super - All Wheel Control) is full time but by no means is it less advanced than the GT-R's. Bear in mind, all the previous ATTESA-ETS (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All-Terrain Electronic Torque Split) versions powered the rear wheels and then sent power to the front when needed too, but Evos could still take them on roadcourses. I'd say an Evo with similar power would definitely give the GT-R a run for the money.


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Old 05-02-2008, 02:52 PM   #42 (permalink)
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It's an amazing car but I would never believe that it would be the fastest road car ever...extraspecially with McLaren F1s still running around.
Yea I see those running around all the time.
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:54 PM   #43 (permalink)
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An evo with similar power won't have anywhere near the streetable powerband that a gtr comes with stock.
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Key word is STOCK. This is a stock car that is 3300+ and not an insane amount of power droping hardcore numbers. Im still amazed...actually i take that back...its about Fin time. Cars should be hoving above the ground like in back to the future :P JKIN

Now the ZR1 will be interesting. The c6 Z06 did awesome...so the ZR1 has no choice but to be another insane must have car. man i wish i was Jay Leno...i know whe will have one or each.
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:43 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Default Re: Base GT-R breaks 7:30 on the ring.

What would it take to stick with a GTR in a road course? I'd imagine the upgraded difs from supercar, some very nice coilovers (JICS?), probably a little more power then the GTR, and a nice set up on the suspension?
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Default Re: Base GT-R breaks 7:30 on the ring.

A stock Z06 on good tires would beat the GTR in its own game. A reg ol freeway race would put the Z06 ahead everytime.

I only mentioned roll racing when talking about raw HP, nothng else.

light to light, not many cars have a hope to touch the GTR.

I may not like the GTR but im not ignorant nor diving into the hype like its some sort of godly car. A reg ol Z51 Vette on good tires with the LS3 would likely go toe-to-toe with the GTR. Add longtubes/intake/tune which runs dead heat with a Z06 would likely beat the GTR.

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How are you comparing a stock base that weighs 3900lbs Skyline to a tuned C6 z06 that weighs ~3300lbs? Roll Racing is not a concern to the Nissan and their engineers! That car has proved it self on the drag strip and on the track.
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Since when did mid 11's become 11 flat?

A stock LS3 vette can do 120mph in the 1/4. A freind of mines dad had an ass stock LS3 Z51 Vette and i forget his time(so i wont pull one of out my ass) ran 118.X in the 1/4 and now with longtubes/intake/tune and good tires is running mid 11's at 124-125 with out even a cam which everyone knows what happens when you cam a LSX engine. Less than 50 into the car so far.

lightly tweaked Z, forget about it.

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wow. 11 second flat quarters, 0-60 in 3.2ish, and you figure a basically stock (as in 'mildly tuned') vette can pull one 'pretty hard'?

I don't see anything in those numbers that tell me it's a dog from a roll. Even if it's only 480 horse, the performance numbers speak for themselves.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:57 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Since when did mid 11's become 11 flat?

A stock LS3 vette can do 120mph in the 1/4. A freind of mines dad had an ass stock LS3 Z51 Vette and i forget his time(so i wont pull one of out my ass) ran 118.X in the 1/4 and now with longtubes/intake/tune and good tires is running mid 11's at 124-125 with out even a cam which everyone knows what happens when you cam a LSX engine. Less than 50 into the car so far.

lightly tweaked Z, forget about it.

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Default Re: Base GT-R breaks 7:30 on the ring.

And we drive a damn Mitsu that half of these cars are piles of shit going down the road, and the other half are half finished projects that will likely never be completed and half of that half will likely never see the road again...

Talking shit on a platform in which its performance eclipses our platforms abilities in nearly every single level is stupid.

Buuuuuut, at the end of the day, there isnt one in the sig

Better is not always..better, you know what i mean?

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And we drive a damn Mitsu that half of these cars are piles of shit going down the road, and the other half are half finished projects that will likely never be completed and half of that half will likely never see the road again...

Talking shit on a platform in which its performance eclipses our platforms abilities in nearly every single level is stupid.

Buuuuuut, at the end of the day, there isnt one in the sig

Better is not always..better, you know what i mean?

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my VR4 out handeled many C5 and a few C6 Vettes on the local autocross last year (NON ZO6's of course), 4WD, 4WS, and ECS makes a difference (this was before it was single turbo'd and still rocking 9B's at 11psi)
i agree about the whole piece of shit platform on the 3/S...
it just really boils down to how much money you got
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