[Kibwe Walker]

Those numbers are based on what?

In practice though you are hard pressed to find a 13g or even 13c car that gets over 400 to the wheels on stock heads and cams. 13t's on the other hand don't take much to cross that line as you see 4xx and 115-120 traps all the time and they are relatively new. 13g's have been out as long as the 3s platform and its hard to find any numbers like this without heads, engine work, or nitrous involved in the equation. Hard as I haven't found any today and even looking back on former members who I thought achieved such numbers turns out they had engine modifications and not just bolt on 13g's/13c's.

Unless you have a great deal on them I wouldn't recommend 13g's especially when these days you can get 13t's for the same price if not cheaper and they are that much more powerful. Maybe they shouldn't be for all practical purposes but the numbers that they kick out on average (4xx) seem to say they are. The more I look the more I stick by my original post.

I am looking for any dyno of a 13g car making more than 400 to the all 4 wheels without nitrous or engine modifications. Just bolt on turbo, IC, exhaust, injs, fp, and exhaust because thats all it takes for 13t's to get over 400 to the wheels even on pump gas 16-18 psi. The same settings is landing a 13g/13c powered car in the 350-380 mark and the difference has to be all compressor and compressor housing efficiency since the turbines are the same (L).

ESP / FFT Unichip Stage 2+ DYNO Results.