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stealthII · 04-10-2008, 11:11 AM

Alright, I think I am finally to the point of asking for help. lol. I currently have three issues that I am facing. A little bit about my setup:

I currently have the e-Manage Ultimate in Stage 2 setup for speed density so I am running the Airflow output map. I am using v2.16. For right now, I am running stock 360cc injectors with Gray Hazes’ “stock” airflow output map. I am just using these for the initial break in process and will eventually go to 680cc. I am also using the GM IAT and resistors to keep the barometer static. I also have an Innovate LCI WB hooked up.

And if it helps, here are my mods:
EVO3 Turbo Kit
FMIC
"No-MAF" Intake Pipes
Stock 360cc injectors
Denso 310lph fuel pump hard-wired
SX Fuel Pressure Regulator @ 43 PSI base pressure
Rebuilt Throttle Body w/ new o-ring – FIAV blocked off

The first problem is, I am getting a really bad idle surge and I can’t tell if it’s from the Emanage, tuning or if it’s from another issue all together. I just did a throttle body rebuild w/ FIAV blockage in hopes it would help and it didn’t. I am going to be pressure testing soon to rule that out as well. I was hoping to go back to the MAS setup as I had before my engine rebuild to rule out the emanage. But the turbo intake pipes I have not will fit with the MAS. Should I try to rig something up to go back to the MAS?

My second problem is just adjusting the idle tune. I can definitely tell this map is very rich just for stock injectors. I have the Innovate LC1 hooked up and during startup, its pegs out to about 17-18 AFR. I know you are not supposed to tune with a cold engine, so I let it warm up and it still runs very rich. I guess my first question is, am I supposed to unplug the NB 02s to keep them from interfering with the ECU while I tune? Secondly, when I change an entry in the map, it appears to change the AFR at first, but then it seems like the ECU re-adjusts and either just goes way rich or way lean. I know that it’s working correctly as if I do a MAP trace, and find the correct field; I can shut the engine down by typing in an extremely large number. (Did it on accident once..Oops)

And my third problem is the same as a problem listed earlier with throttle tip in. It seems like whenever I go WOT, there is a lag. I have read that this requires use of the “Accel I/J Adj map”. My only problem is I am on stage 2 and not 2.5. Is there any other way to fight the lag or do I need to go to stage 2.5? Also, I noticed Trevor is only at stage 2 and didn’t see anything about him having this problem.

Sorry for the book, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

04-10-2008, 11:11 AM	#478 (permalink)
stealthII Paid Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Lake Mary, Florida Drives: 93 Stealth RT/TT Trader Rating: (24)	Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Tuning Thread =- Alright, I think I am finally to the point of asking for help. lol. I currently have three issues that I am facing. A little bit about my setup: I currently have the e-Manage Ultimate in Stage 2 setup for speed density so I am running the Airflow output map. I am using v2.16. For right now, I am running stock 360cc injectors with Gray Hazes’ “stock” airflow output map. I am just using these for the initial break in process and will eventually go to 680cc. I am also using the GM IAT and resistors to keep the barometer static. I also have an Innovate LCI WB hooked up. And if it helps, here are my mods: EVO3 Turbo Kit FMIC "No-MAF" Intake Pipes Stock 360cc injectors Denso 310lph fuel pump hard-wired SX Fuel Pressure Regulator @ 43 PSI base pressure Rebuilt Throttle Body w/ new o-ring – FIAV blocked off The first problem is, I am getting a really bad idle surge and I can’t tell if it’s from the Emanage, tuning or if it’s from another issue all together. I just did a throttle body rebuild w/ FIAV blockage in hopes it would help and it didn’t. I am going to be pressure testing soon to rule that out as well. I was hoping to go back to the MAS setup as I had before my engine rebuild to rule out the emanage. But the turbo intake pipes I have not will fit with the MAS. Should I try to rig something up to go back to the MAS? My second problem is just adjusting the idle tune. I can definitely tell this map is very rich just for stock injectors. I have the Innovate LC1 hooked up and during startup, its pegs out to about 17-18 AFR. I know you are not supposed to tune with a cold engine, so I let it warm up and it still runs very rich. I guess my first question is, am I supposed to unplug the NB 02s to keep them from interfering with the ECU while I tune? Secondly, when I change an entry in the map, it appears to change the AFR at first, but then it seems like the ECU re-adjusts and either just goes way rich or way lean. I know that it’s working correctly as if I do a MAP trace, and find the correct field; I can shut the engine down by typing in an extremely large number. (Did it on accident once..Oops) And my third problem is the same as a problem listed earlier with throttle tip in. It seems like whenever I go WOT, there is a lag. I have read that this requires use of the “Accel I/J Adj map”. My only problem is I am on stage 2 and not 2.5. Is there any other way to fight the lag or do I need to go to stage 2.5? Also, I noticed Trevor is only at stage 2 and didn’t see anything about him having this problem. Sorry for the book, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks! __________________ 1993 Dodge Stealth RT/TT - For mod list, visit stealthTT.com.