Re: -= Ultimate Emanage Tuning Thread =-
your E-manage Datalog says 12 degrees, or your ECU datalogger says 12 degrees? if this is per the Emanage (actual timing) I don't think retarding anymore is going to do you any good. Too little timign and you will start burning exhaust valves.
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Pretty good for 2 shot turbos and a boost leak 
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