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Originally Posted by leet
yes, but I'm not saying to run out and buy a $1500 L lens, I'm saying to spend maybe $100-200 more and get a much better setup that he won't be feeling the itch to upgrade right away once he sees his pictures compared to something taken with better glass
basically I'm trying to help him not make the mistakes I did, which is wasting money on crappy glass only to upgrade it later on down the road
buy smart, buy once
besides a camera is only as good as the person holding it 
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We're arguing the same point, from different POV's (novice vs. old timer). I'm buying those lenses (
L glass) because they are the best I can get for my style and range of shooting. They are all I will probably have to buy unless I change my style. A camera is indeed only as good as the photographer, hence why I am trying to learn the basics, learn post production, etc before I blow my wad and start carrying around a 3k worth of glass in my satchel.
Point of fact: One of the main reasons that I like using these "starter" lenses for daily pics is because they get beat to shit traveling with me on the subway. People bang into me, doors hit me/my bag, etc. When I picked up my 50mm the guy tells me, "be careful..these are very very fragile... You'll probably break it though commuting."
I suppose you are right though Tom. What works for me may not work for you and Sean.. He should get one or two great lenses to start and call it a day. I'm just all about the bang for the buck.