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Old 02-27-2008, 02:22 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Default Re: Alcohol vs. Nitrous vs. Propane vs. Water

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Originally Posted by Gamerse View Post
For my technical inquery, isn't propane technically a dry fuel, and as such, it has less effect on the charge temp in comparison to ohh say, water, meth, alcahol?

Its downfall I would think is the install costs. The cheapest kits I've seen start around $600.00
you gotta remember though, when a gas goes from high pressure to low pressure, it's temperature will drop. propane goes from a liquid state (very high pressure) to a gaseous state (much lower pressure) so it cools down significantly. that has a cooling effect on the intake charge.

i don't remember what ipo used to sell his kits for, but it was less than $600. i know DR used to sell a kit. don't remember the specific cost, but i believe it was under 600 as well. and after that, propane is relatively cheap to refill, as is meth/water.

as far as results, i don't have the webpage offhand, but i remember ipo did some tests with a datalogger a few years ago on a 17g vr4, and knock was all but eliminated. i don't remember the specifics of the test as it's been a year or two since i visited that page.
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